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Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

Started by hartiberlin, October 11, 2007, 05:28:41 PM

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Freezer

Quote from: samedsoft on May 25, 2008, 01:49:18 AM
@Dear Freezer,

   Thanks for the information. I wonder how you add extra neons with capacitor plates to the SEC exciter? (I mean the connections)

   What sort of change do you observe when you connect additional neon to the SEC? Thanks..
 

All I'm doing is rerouting to another neon so I can test things on a protoboard, I'm really just trying to observe things and understand whats happening, so I can't really say what changes are going on, as I don't know.

@ All

I was giving the electrolysis a try, and wanted to know what this blue crap is?  I'm now afraid to drink my tap water.  :D  Maybe its normal, I have no clue..It only happens when that wire is touching the bowl, and is partially exposed to air.  I'm not sure what the bowl is made of.



Edit:

I guess this was normal, I found this qoute on the web by "woelen"

The blue precipitate at the cathode can be explained easily. At the cathode, the following reaction occurs:

2H2O + 2e ---> 2OH(-) + H2

The 2e is coming from the cathode, delivered by the power supply. The hydroxide ions form a precipitate Cu(OH)2 with copper ions, already present in solution.

You use a very high voltage. If you lower the voltage, then I certainly expect less Cu(OH)2 to be formed and more Cu-metal.

Another thing is that it indeed is not very good to use CuCl2. It is much better to use CuSO4. CuCl2 forms many complex ions in solution, such as CuCl4(2-) and other less-chlorinated complex species (these complex ions make a solution of CuCl2 appear green instead of blue). These complex ions also makes things more difficult."

DrStiffler

Quote from: Freezer on May 25, 2008, 05:31:13 PM
All I'm doing is rerouting to another neon so I can test things on a protoboard, I'm really just trying to observe things and understand whats happening, so I can't really say what changes are going on, as I don't know.

@ All

I was giving the electrolysis a try, and wanted to know what this blue crap is?  I'm now afraid to drink my tap water.  :D  Maybe its normal, I have no clue..It only happens when that wire is touching the bowl, and is partially exposed to air.  I'm not sure what the bowl is made of.



@Freezer
That blue 'crap' is Cu or copper from the wire. If you want to do this experiment you need SS. Now that green 'crap' would be chlorine, guess you don't have chlorine treatment of your water, or you are at the end of the line.

I can't remember where in the thread I posted the info, but "Fine" SS wire and a large SS bolt and nut for the other electrode. If you use other than SS and tap water you never know what will grow out of it.

Use only SS as I outlined and distilled water (lab grade deionized is best) to see what SEC will do. Tap water is a no-no.
All things are possible but some are impractical.

Freezer

Quote from: DrStiffler on May 25, 2008, 05:49:13 PM
@Freezer
That blue 'crap' is Cu or copper from the wire. If you want to do this experiment you need SS. Now that green 'crap' would be chlorine, guess you don't have chlorine treatment of your water, or you are at the end of the line.

I can't remember where in the thread I posted the info, but "Fine" SS wire and a large SS bolt and nut for the other electrode. If you use other than SS and tap water you never know what will grow out of it.

Use only SS as I outlined and distilled water (lab grade deionized is best) to see what SEC will do. Tap water is a no-no.

Will do.  I was initially thinking it could be a reaction with some chemical additive they put in the water supply.  Never know what they are doing to the water. :s  Its interesting that this can take such a low current and still work..Ralph Ring was right in that brute force is the worst way to do things.

Loki67671

@All,
When Dr. Stiffler said now the hard work was starting, he wasn't kidding. I have to solder up my integrated LPF with sensor amps and set the calibration resistor, wire the DAQ in, decouple everything again, and I'll be starting test and calibration runs. Wohoo! It won't be too long now! And then the hard hard work starts.  8)

Best regards,

Jim
"When the water stinks, I break the dam, with Love I break it" .............Loki

"One must be completely immersed in the cold darkness to truly adore or loathe the light" .............Loki

Science, my lad, is made up of mistakes, but they are mistakes which it is useful to make, because they lead little by little to the truth." - Jules Verne

DrStiffler

Quote from: Loki67671 on May 25, 2008, 06:31:06 PM
@All,
When Dr. Stiffler said now the hard work was starting, he wasn't kidding. I have to solder up my integrated LPF with sensor amps and set the calibration resistor, wire the DAQ in, decouple everything again, and I'll be starting test and calibration runs. Wohoo! It won't be too long now! And then the hard hard work starts.  8)

Best regards,

Jim
@Loki
Now you have gone and done it  :'(

My, my what is going on here, having a little RF trouble ;D

Hey world, its easier to shield a 50W transmitter than a SEC, is that right Loki?
All things are possible but some are impractical.