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I am a sceptic, but maybe more hope here

Started by Low-Q, October 15, 2007, 10:08:09 AM

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ken_nyus

Also see some interesting data and experiments from a patent in this thread:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3327.0

The patent data shows a simple way to bring two magnets together, 1 Joule of work to bring them together, 4 Joules of work when they push apart, I just can't think of any way to make this a cycle.

Low-Q

Quote from: ken_nyus on October 23, 2007, 10:16:20 AM
Also see some interesting data and experiments from a patent in this thread:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3327.0

The patent data shows a simple way to bring two magnets together, 1 Joule of work to bring them together, 4 Joules of work when they push apart, I just can't think of any way to make this a cycle.
yes. I have discovered the same. Allmost no force to push them together, but when I bring them out of balance, the free magnet is pushed away very rapidly - and very far. I will post a video showing this in a short while...

Vidar

Low-Q

Quote from: Low-Q on October 23, 2007, 12:27:23 PM
Quote from: ken_nyus on October 23, 2007, 10:16:20 AM
Also see some interesting data and experiments from a patent in this thread:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3327.0

The patent data shows a simple way to bring two magnets together, 1 Joule of work to bring them together, 4 Joules of work when they push apart, I just can't think of any way to make this a cycle.
yes. I have discovered the same. Allmost no force to push them together, but when I bring them out of balance, the free magnet is pushed away very rapidly - and very far. I will post a video showing this in a short while...

Vidar

Here is the video. You must concider there is a handheld magnet in this test. I have no clue if this will work in a fully mechanical setup with no human influence. All I know is that I use very little force to move the hand held magnet (Right click and choose save it (almost 10Mb)):
http://www.lyd-interior.no/images/PA230067.AVI

gyulasun

Hi Vidar,

Thanks for the video, very interesting.  Would you tell when the bottom magnet is just kicking out do you feel the reaction force on the upper magnet in your hand?  I think here the action-reaction law, usually you should feel a backward push of almost a similar strength on the upper magnet like the force the bottom magnet accelerates with.

One more question: after the approach of the upper magnet from above in the same way you showed,  you start moving the upper magnet in the opposite direction  (i.e. away from you),  then the bottom magnet is kicking out also in the opposite direction (i.e. towards you)?

Thanks, 
Gyula


Low-Q

Quote from: gyulasun on October 23, 2007, 04:52:17 PM
Hi Vidar,

Thanks for the video, very interesting.  Would you tell when the bottom magnet is just kicking out do you feel the reaction force on the upper magnet in your hand?  I think here the action-reaction law, usually you should feel a backward push of almost a similar strength on the upper magnet like the force the bottom magnet accelerates with.

One more question: after the approach of the upper magnet from above in the same way you showed,  you start moving the upper magnet in the opposite direction  (i.e. away from you),  then the bottom magnet is kicking out also in the opposite direction (i.e. towards you)?

Thanks, 
Gyula


Hi,

I can make a video showing all posibilities. Towards me, away from me and this from the side. Give me a few minutes, and I'll post a video.

Br.

Vidar