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Overunity Machines Forum



Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?

Started by ken_nyus, October 15, 2007, 10:08:47 PM

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Omnibus

Quote from: NerzhDishual on November 02, 2007, 09:29:59 PM

Hi builders,

I have just found  this out: http://www.lindsaybks.com/bks8/magn/
Old Time Secrets of Making Permanent Magnets

QuoteYes, you can make powerful permanent magnets. No, they're not going to be as efficient as modern samarium or neodymium magnets, or even the classic alnico types. But revealed are precisely the techniques used to create the powerful magnetic magazine used by Michael Faraday to invent his disc generator that so intrigues the perpetual motion and free energy crowd
.

This is perhaps the Xpenzif "secret".....
Best
Who knows, you may be right. My experience shows me differently--as I said, I'm observing annoying cooperative phenomena which stand in the way when using magnets in a closed loop. However, here's once again where it all started: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Int5za7Eslo. We see here magnets on the drum instead of screws.

Pirate88179

@ Omnibus:

The link you posted was the same one I posted here many pages back.  I attempted to replicate that device some time ago with no success.  I have another design variation of that one I am working on along with several other things.  I have not heard any feedback on this video as to its reality, have you?  We only see one side of the device running for a short time.  We don't see the top, or the bottom, or the reverse side.  It appears that he has several stationary magnet, or steel posts around the circumference.  I saw mulltilple sticky spots and equilibrium in my replication attempts.  I would like to hear from others if they too have tried this.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

Omnibus

Quote from: Pirate88179 on November 02, 2007, 10:17:20 PM
@ Omnibus:

The link you posted was the same one I posted here many pages back.  I attempted to replicate that device some time ago with no success.  I have another design variation of that one I am working on along with several other things.  I have not heard any feedback on this video as to its reality, have you?  We only see one side of the device running for a short time.  We don't see the top, or the bottom, or the reverse side.  It appears that he has several stationary magnet, or steel posts around the circumference.  I saw mulltilple sticky spots and equilibrium in my replication attempts.  I would like to hear from others if they too have tried this.

Bill
Correct, that's the link you posted at the very beginning here. I wonder why is it that literally everybody who has made claims to have such motors successfully running (posted videos or otherwise) disappears. Not one remains to discuss his or her success. It's obvious that money will not come from this. There are numerous patents for such perpetuum mobiles, to no avail. And yet, something prevents the constructors from following up. Either they cannot reproduce what they originally saw or someone lights in them the sparks of unachievable dreams which prevent them from seeing that they are in fact hurting themselves when going into isolation. Anyway. I mentioned above my experience with a similar device. As I said, my device has four stripes of neos placed diagonally across the outer surface of the cylinder. What I noticed is that by no means one should use strong stator magnet. Therefore, as a stator I'm using one common RadioShack magnet. So far I was able to overcome (wasn't at all easy) the three sticky spots and the drum makes one full rotation, self-starting. To start another turn, however, there's one more sticky spot to be overcome which I can't do so far (recall this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=_mqLxUMx7kA). As I said, @xpenzif also has a similar problem but he somehow succeeds to overcome it. Either proper adjustment or there's something more than meets the eye. Therefore, it is very important, as I already emphasized more than once, to replicate @xpenzif's device exactly and for this reason if he really wants independent parties to replicate what he's done (which is crucial for the acceptance of his device) he should come around to share some more details.

Pirate88179

See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

NerzhDishual

Hi Omnibus and others,

My 'reasoning' (feeling) is the following:
I have reproduced the xpenzif device. I'm (very) far from a machinist. OK
But I could not had it spinning at all. Actually, the rotor miserably 'sticks'.

I tried to quickly (and 'lousy') put (not glue) magnets on each screws's head (repulsion mode with the stator). I was (of course, due to my shabby work) not successful getting the rotor self spinning but it was more "free to move".

Then, I saw this X00013's replication attempt with his few small magnets.
I am also aware of the mysterious:  http://youtube.com/watch?v=Int5za7Eslo .

That is why I'm now wondering whether all (or some) of the xpenzif's screws were not actually small (weak) magnets. It looks like screws, It sounds like screws, it smells and tastes like screws but actually it is magnets!

Of course, it is just a guess.

Best
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