Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?

[Omnibus]

The main empirical proof, of course, is that when lifted from A to B the ball indeed proceeds along B-C-A to close the loop at A. That that would happen isn't evident without experimentally (empirically) demonstrating it.

[shruggedatlas]

Not at all. The last experiment you proposed has nothing to do with the main claim in SMOT, that is, the production of energy from nothing. Will be a waste of time to conduct such experiment if the goal is to prove by it whether or not excess energy is produced. And, yes, there is empirical proof energy from nothing is produced in SMOT--h2 is a real, not fictional, height, Mb is a real magnetic potential energy, not fictional one etc. All this is empirical proof, not illusion or speculation. Also, don't bother about this "it is nowhere near settled in anyone else's mind", that can't serve as a scientific argument.

The reason I say "it is not settled" is not to prove that it is not true.  The reason I say this is to encourage further proof that would convince the masses, and then some real progress can be made.

And why is my experiment not applicable?  You have told me to always focus on the energy in the ball.  That is what I am doing.  In my experiment:

1.  The ball travels down a straight ramp to build up momentum,
2.  It enters the SMOT ramp, where it gains even more energy in the process (the "energy from nothing").
3.  It leaves the SMOT ramp with this "energy from nothing" in addition to the kinetic energy it already has from the normal downward acceleration.
4.  It eventually exits the ramp at point B, where its velocity can be precisely measured using a modern instrument.

We can then compare the speed of the ball to the speed of a ball that travels the exact same path but is unassisted by magnets.

At which point am I mistaken?  Why will this not work?  I do not understand why you are ducking this simple experiment which can conclusively  and definitively prove that you are correct.

While you may be certain of your position, you must admit it is not widely accepted at all.  Would you rather see it widely accepted?  We can make it happen with this simple test.

If you do not accept this experiment, would you kindly explain why the SMOT ramp is not capable of imparting the excess energy onto the ball in any way that it can actually be measured in the real world through a speed test.  As you instructed, I am focusing on the energy in the ball and the energy in the ball only.

[Omnibus]

The problem in your proposal is that what you're calling "energy from nothing" isn't in fact energy from nothing. What your experiment does is to have an initially imparted energy to the ball be redistributed back an forth in various other forms of energy.

[shruggedatlas]

The problem in your proposal is that what you're calling "energy from nothing" isn't in fact energy from nothing. What your experiment does is to have an initially imparted energy to the ball be redistributed back an forth in various other forms of energy.

So you are saying that in the two trials I propose, the trial with the SMOT will not result in the ball having greater speed as it exits point B, correct?  Or are you saying you are not sure?

If the ball in the SMOT trial will not have greater velocity upon exiting the ramp at point B, I have to ask, why not?  What happened to the excess energy that the SMOT imparted?  Friction is not the answer, because friction was also a factor in the first trial.

[nightlife]

We can not nor can could we ever create something from nothing. It has more to do with collecting and storing what we already have in mass quantity?s to power things we use.

  This can and has been done by using electricity.  Nor only has it already been done but it has been even proven to collect a larger quantity then it actually used. The Bedini motor is a prime example of this.


BATTERY TEST FOR THE BEDINI MOTOR GENERATOR

DATE : OCTOBER 13, 2000
BATTERY TEST SEQUENCE:

One lead acid gel-cell (12 volts, 450 milliamps) is being utilized as the primary source fully charged at 12.5 volts

Three (3) lead acid gel-cell batteries (12 volt, 450 milliamps) strapped in parallel are being used as the charge destination. The batteries are discharged to 10 volts for the test purposes.

Test #1 starts at 10:45 AM utilizing primary battery fully charged at 12.5 volts charging three (3) destination batteries paralleled. The destination batteries reach a charge capacity of 14 volts at 11:20 AM.

The destination batteries are then discharged to 10 volts under working load to prepare for Test #2.

Test #2 starts at 11:25 AM utilizing primary battery measured at 11.5 volts. Charging three (3) destination batteries paralleled. The destination batteries reach a charge capacity of 14 volts at 12:50 PM.

The destination batteries are then discharged to 10 volts under working load to prepare for Test #3.

Test #3 starts at 1:00 PM utilizing primary battery measured at 10.5 volts. Charging three (3) destination batteries paralleled. The destination batteries reach a charge capacity of 14 volts at 1:40 PM.

The destination batteries are then discharged to 10 volts under working load to prepare for Test #4.

Test #4 starts at 2:05 PM utilizing primary battery measured at 9.5 volts. Charging three (3) destination batteries paralleled. The destination batteries reach a charge capacity of 13 volts at 2:40 PM. The primary battery is now discharged to 9 volts under working load and unable to further run the

Bedini motor generator.
TOTAL BATTERIES CHARGED:
12 lead acid gel-cell batteries (12 volts, 450 milliamps each). This ratio is a 12 to 1 charging factor. The motor operation (work) being performed as this was done is not included as an additional factor in this test.

http://www.rexresearch.com/bedini/bedini.htm#battest


This can be done with the same concept but in different ways that could be more productive in collecting and storing larger quantity?s.

I did find out away to manipulate a magnetic fields repelling affect that should prove to be very interesting and hopefully very beneficial in one of my designs. I would explain it but I am afraid I am not to good at explaining things to do it properly so I think it would be best to wait till I get it built and record the footage of it operating and explain each part.
I don't believe it would be as powerful as a pulse motor but then again only time will tell.