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Overunity Machines Forum



Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?

Started by ken_nyus, October 15, 2007, 10:08:47 PM

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Pirate88179

QuoteThe supposition is that Finsrud's device is just a very efficient redistributor of the initially imparted energy.

That is exactly what I think is going on here.  If you look at the pictures of my device posted earlier, in preliminary tests(read testing before properly completed) I can get 5-7 rotatiions.  I am holding the stationary magnets in my hand and as I approach the cylinder it begins to spin on it's own and if I stop moving my hand closer, the rotation slows and finds equilibrium.  All I am doing is imparting a pulse by moving my hand as in the rotating magnet experiment video I posted some time ago.  At that time, Omnibus said that if I held the magnet ring in a fixed position there would be no rotation, and he was correct.  This was just a low friction device reacting to the impulses of the moving hand.

I am afraid that is what is possibly happening here as well.  Otherwise, why did he not mark the spot where the magnets (stationary) cause rotation and bolt, glue, fix, his magnets there to that spot as opposed to moving it with his hand.  The bearings on a hard drive set up like that, especially if he removed the windings, is very, very low friction.

I too will eagerly await the results of the replicators before deciding one way or the other, but I am leaning in this direction more and more.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
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markdansie

Dear Sterling,
"I have had marginal success replicating this device. I have flattened all screws and positioned them perfectly. I have gotten over 360 degrees of rotation(which I feel is very significant!) I am using an old stepper motor for a mount, but a smoother bearing might do the trick"

I could show a device that self starts and runs for at least 15 minutes...it appears to be a magnetic motor but isnt.. Sadly this new device would have to run for at least an hour to convince me anything was there as the action of bringing in the stator to the rotor can actually be the driving force itself.

I might also suggest old heads from a vcr make excellent bearings...they can spin for several minutes with the slightest touch.
Mark

Omnibus

Quote from: Pirate88179 on October 21, 2007, 03:32:07 PM
QuoteThe supposition is that Finsrud's device is just a very efficient redistributor of the initially imparted energy.

That is exactly what I think is going on here.  If you look at the pictures of my device posted earlier, in preliminary tests(read testing before properly completed) I can get 5-7 rotatiions.  I am holding the stationary magnets in my hand and as I approach the cylinder it begins to spin on it's own and if I stop moving my hand closer, the rotation slows and finds equilibrium.  All I am doing is imparting a pulse by moving my hand as in the rotating magnet experiment video I posted some time ago.  At that time, Omnibus said that if I held the magnet ring in a fixed position there would be no rotation, and he was correct.  This was just a low friction device reacting to the impulses of the moving hand.

I am afraid that is what is possibly happening here as well.  Otherwise, why did he not mark the spot where the magnets (stationary) cause rotation and bolt, glue, fix, his magnets there to that spot as opposed to moving it with his hand.  The bearings on a hard drive set up like that, especially if he removed the windings, is very, very low friction.

I too will eagerly await the results of the replicators before deciding one way or the other, but I am leaning in this direction more and more.

Bill
It doesn't seem so, though, in this case. That's why @xpenzif's device provoked such interest. He should have left it running for a couple of more minutes, however. Hope those who'll reproduce it will show it running longer with that initial adjustment move of the rotor (not push, actually) @xpenzif makes at the beginning.

markdansie

@bill
your observations are spot on. I have seen this many times on different devices.
I do appreciate all the replications and ideas put forward here. I remain open minded that something may come of this but at this stage I agree with you unless further evidence is provided. There has been a long history of devices that have failed to be replicated.
the next hurdle if one did run is to see if the magnets loose their power....
Kind Regards
mark

Omnibus

Quote from: markdansie on October 21, 2007, 03:35:58 PM
Dear Sterling,
"I have had marginal success replicating this device. I have flattened all screws and positioned them perfectly. I have gotten over 360 degrees of rotation(which I feel is very significant!) I am using an old stepper motor for a mount, but a smoother bearing might do the trick"

I could show a device that self starts and runs for at least 15 minutes...it appears to be a magnetic motor but isnt.. Sadly this new device would have to run for at least an hour to convince me anything was there as the action of bringing in the stator to the rotor can actually be the driving force itself.

I might also suggest old heads from a vcr make excellent bearings...they can spin for several minutes with the slightest touch.
Mark
Mark, show it running for 15 minutes while self-starting (and don't run away after that as @xpenzif and all the rest did). That'll do. This is a perpetuum mobile.