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Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?

Started by ken_nyus, October 15, 2007, 10:08:47 PM

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Koen1

What "specific tuneup" are you talking about?

The design is extremely simple, and it is quite easy to construct a number of different rotors with slightly different screw types, sizes, and locations.
I don't think @xpenzif's input is crucial at all. It might help to know the exact dimensions of all of his rotors parts and the exact type of magnets he uses, so an exact replication can be made...
But since it is such a simple design it should not at all be hard to produce the same effect by trying slightly different versions.

Instead of continually claiming that it works and is great, perhaps you should actually try to build one?


Omnibus

Quote from: Koen1 on November 14, 2007, 11:55:54 AM
What "specific tuneup" are you talking about?

The design is extremely simple, and it is quite easy to construct a number of different rotors with slightly different screw types, sizes, and locations.
I don't think @xpenzif's input is crucial at all. It might help to know the exact dimensions of all of his rotors parts and the exact type of magnets he uses, so an exact replication can be made...
But since it is such a simple design it should not at all be hard to produce the same effect by trying slightly different versions.

Instead of continually claiming that it works and is great, perhaps you should actually try to build one?


I explained above what's the specific about the tune up. Perhaps you should read first what people write before commenting. Also, you should know that building one requires time as well as resources. Time you can't provide. How 'bout resources? Don't send these resources to me. Send them to @klicUK.OK?

shruggedatlas

Well, at any rate, there is quite a bit disclosed here - there is no black box at all.  Compare that with other demonstrations where the inner workings of the device are hidden.  So there is quite alot to go on.  Logically, however, I cannot understand why this thing would spin at all.  It seems that equilibrium is quickly established, and there is nothing going on that should cause the static magnets to continue being attracted to the next screw down the line more so than the screw they are already closest to.

Maybe xpenzif could provide some expert advice on how to manipulate the column of air so it causes the drum to accelerate realistically.  :)

Omnibus

Quote from: shruggedatlas on November 14, 2007, 02:18:42 PM
Well, at any rate, there is quite a bit disclosed here - there is no black box at all.  Compare that with other demonstrations where the inner workings of the device are hidden.  So there is quite alot to go on.  Logically, however, I cannot understand why this thing would spin at all.  It seems that equilibrium is quickly established, and there is nothing going on that should cause the static magnets to continue being attracted to the next screw down the line more so than the screw they are already closest to.

Maybe xpenzif could provide some expert advice on how to manipulate the column of air so it causes the drum to accelerate realistically.  :)

What column of air? Where did you see evidence for such a thing?

Also, you obviously have missed my explanation a couple of pages back. This works just as SMOT does but here we have superposition of same type of conservative fields unlike SMOT. This is a self-sustaining SMOT, if you will. Imagine two rows of steel pieces (screws in this case) which we'll call stations working independent of each other. The peculiarity here that helps is the fact that when one one station moves downhill from the potential maximum it doesn't stop at the potential minimum but proceeds beyond it. If we leave it alone it will back and forth just as a pendulum would do. However if there is another row of stations having its own maximums and minimums which is only mechanically coupled to the first row but not with respect to its response to a magnetic field acting only on it then things change if properly tuned up, Just before the fist station starts to bounce back another station is picks up, being at the maximum of the field acting on it, and the drum instead of going back proceeds in the forward direction. And so on. Thus, there's always a tendency towards equilibrium which is never reached. I already explained that but, as is the rule here, one has to repeat a hundred times the same thing because some people just don't bother to read what is being posted.

I don't think there's anything new in this construction concept and therefore there's nothing patentable about it. What is new is just the scientific analysis but scientific analysis isn't something that can be patented. This frantic desire to patent in this field is just a waste. Patents on perpetuum mobile's cannot withstand a serious scrutiny because all these ideas for perpetuum mobile devices without exception have been around for a long, long time. It very well may be that such devices have already existed but they have been ignored by the powers that be. As they will be ignored today as business ventures. Perpetuum mobile is everything business doesn't want to hear about. Therefore, don't waste your time, money, hopes, dreams etc. on patenting this thing, valid as it is. Just do it and contribute to the progress of society.

nightlife

LOL, this will make everyone feel stupid. It's the magnet set up that is the trick. He must have some sort of spring in each one of the magnet housings. That is why we heard a click each time the magnet attracted to the screw.

This is another reason we don't see that part on EBay. It came to after wondering why he just didn't use one bar magnet and had 4 separate ones instead.

There you go, that?s the key. If you want to make that design more powerful, make sure the magnetic set up is angled with the tilt required for the gravitational pull.

Are there people in here with a lot of money? If so, email me because we are on our way to help change the worlds way of producing energy.

This will help me produce even more power with my other designs.