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Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?

Started by ken_nyus, October 15, 2007, 10:08:47 PM

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Omnibus

Quote from: joemensor on November 15, 2007, 03:48:09 AM
I think its fairly obvious this whole thing was a hoax, its the same old same old. Lets be honest if any of us discovered free energy we'd either go completely public and explain how to replicate or keep it completely to ourselves, but this idea of cryptically demonstrating devices, not answering emails, being busy etc. etc.. is a sure sign of bs.

Lets face it, these are some college kids having a laugh, and now they are selling the same bits and pieces of the device from the video on Ebay so they can make a quick buck too, they'll never sell the stator so that it can never be PROVED that it was a hoax!

Suprising how much effort was spent by the community following this up.

Joe.
There's no question that this is annoying behavior. Cryptically demonstrating devices, not answering emails, being busy etc. etc. indeed feeds fears that it might be something we've seen so many times before. However, people not always behave rationally even when they do legitimate things. On the other hand, if it's a hoax it's a really compelling hoax. I challenge you to figure out a hoax that's that compelling, stator not offered on ebay notwithstanding. As for the few bucks, it's a decision of whoever wants to give them, it's their money not ours so we shouldn't worry too much about that.

Omnibus

Quote from: Koen1 on November 15, 2007, 08:24:44 AM
Omnibus, you keep going on and on about how this setup works, but all you present is talk.
Like I said before, talk is cheap.

I have extensive experience with various forms and variations of the SMOT as well as this motor design, as I have already stated before.

where are your working versions then?
Do they only exist in your mind?

oh, and there is no need to keep going on with your pro-free energy propaganda. We are all in this forum because we believe or at least hope it is possible to produce "free" energy (or "over unity").
Instead of repeating that perpetuum mobile and overunity devices are possible and do work, over and over again in different formulations,
please present something tangiable? Or at least stop repeating yourself, please?

As I?ve made it clear, I?m repeating myself and will repeat myself in the future only when doubts are expressed about certain things in this research which are already firmly established such as the fact that CoE can be violated. That?s not propaganda, that?s a fact. It?s not I who should be blamed, it?s those who tend to ignore already established scientific facts, which is the greatest insult.

As for the replication, I already told you and I will repeat, it takes time and resources. You cannot provide time. However, if you?re willing to offer resources offer them to @klicUK and @X00013 who have shown the best efforts so far in trying to replicate this device. If you?re not offering resources but continue to require replication then it will have as a result hearing over and over again the same thing I just told you. Causing such a thing is counterproductive.

klicUK

Quote from: Omnibus on November 15, 2007, 09:41:44 AM
Quote from: joemensor on November 15, 2007, 03:48:09 AM
I think its fairly obvious this whole thing was a hoax, its the same old same old. Lets be honest if any of us discovered free energy we'd either go completely public and explain how to replicate or keep it completely to ourselves, but this idea of cryptically demonstrating devices, not answering emails, being busy etc. etc.. is a sure sign of bs.

Lets face it, these are some college kids having a laugh, and now they are selling the same bits and pieces of the device from the video on Ebay so they can make a quick buck too, they'll never sell the stator so that it can never be PROVED that it was a hoax!

Suprising how much effort was spent by the community following this up.

Joe.
There's no question that this is annoying behavior. Cryptically demonstrating devices, not answering emails, being busy etc. etc. indeed feeds fears that it might be something we've seen so many times before. However, people not always behave rationally even when they do legitimate things. On the other hand, if it's a hoax it's a really compelling hoax. I challenge you to figure out a hoax that's that compelling, stator not offered on ebay notwithstanding. As for the few bucks, it's a decision of whoever wants to give them, it's their money not ours so we shouldn't worry too much about that.

Of course you KNOW what will happen next. lol.

The 'buyer' will post another video (with their own stator of course) of the device spinning like a top. ROFL. I can just see it now. Honestly, the prank value of this is brilliant.

I just hope that nobody gets conned into parting with any cash investing into any future company that "xpenzif" might set up.

klicUK

shruggedatlas

Quote from: Omnibus on November 15, 2007, 09:52:46 AM
As I?ve made it clear, I?m repeating myself and will repeat myself in the future only when doubts are expressed about certain things in this research which are already firmly established such as the fact that CoE can be violated. That?s not propaganda, that?s a fact. It?s not I who should be blamed, it?s those who tend to ignore already established scientific facts, which is the greatest insult.

"Firmly established" implies some form of peer review and general concensus.  You repeating over and over that something is firmly established does not make it so.  "Highly controversial" is much more accurate in this case.  It is a really dishonest thing to say, and you are just inviting criticism, but maybe that is your goal, I don't know.

Omnibus

Quote from: shruggedatlas on November 15, 2007, 02:41:44 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on November 15, 2007, 09:52:46 AM
As I?ve made it clear, I?m repeating myself and will repeat myself in the future only when doubts are expressed about certain things in this research which are already firmly established such as the fact that CoE can be violated. That?s not propaganda, that?s a fact. It?s not I who should be blamed, it?s those who tend to ignore already established scientific facts, which is the greatest insult.

"Firmly established" implies some form of peer review and general concensus.  You repeating over and over that something is firmly established does not make it so.  "Highly controversial" is much more accurate in this case.  It is a really dishonest thing to say, and you are just inviting criticism, but maybe that is your goal, I don't know.

Not at all. The incompetent remarks by some don't make anything controversial no matter how impudently or subtly they push it. Absolutely not. Science is un-dented by incompetence. Otherwise the world will be in a much greater mess than it is now.