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Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?

Started by ken_nyus, October 15, 2007, 10:08:47 PM

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shruggedatlas

Quote from: supersam on November 18, 2007, 01:36:28 AM
@all

thi whole discution reminds me of the first time i got the idea of overunity.  i was taking a tour of the nuclear pwerhouse that my father was building at the time.  "late 70's." 

i was stricken with the idea that if all we needed to do to make steam was to produce heat, and the nuclear material, "a small amount" was all we needed to have to make haeat, why not just take the nuclear material and make enough heat to make the supehated steam, that makes the turbines turn and instead of making power for the grid, just use that power to generate electricity to heat the boilers, and then just sell the power that was generated off of that and keep the rest to reheat the boilers and keep the whole thing going?  well then i was intrduced to thermodynamics.  that i have never been proven to me to mean datilishit.  even if you add or have heat losses in a system, why would this tact seem to have such a detrimental effect in the overall perfirmance of the system?

oh yea.  now i remember then it would be too efficient.  to what, i asked?  the law of thermodynamics.  B.S.  think just a little outside of the box.  the system i outlined was twice as efficient.  they just didn't want to see it.  maybe ya'll do, who knows.  it has been proven already that there is know way to lift yourself into the sky by mechanical means.  i guess this means vacumn or any other, like jet planes.  so i guess we should give up on rockets too.

lol
sam

That makes as much sense as using the steam from a boiling kettle to keep the kettle boiling.

hansvonlieven

Quote from: shruggedatlas on November 18, 2007, 03:20:53 AM
That makes as much sense as using the steam from a boiling kettle to keep the kettle boiling.

Or the Chas Campbell generator shrugged :-)

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

karl

I feel a concentration of love waves comming together in one heart in a constructive manner (syntax errrrrorrrrrrrriiiiiiiiaaaaaaaaohaaaaaauiuiuiuiuiuiuiuijaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?......................)
Do you know what I mean now.
This should be always observed while constructing pmm's.
..the sun is shining...makes me feel good...
..hey boys...hey girls
...here we go...............................................................................()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()().......................................................................................

...don't push the button to soon, more between the lines..

shruggedatlas

Quote from: Omnibus on November 18, 2007, 01:46:39 AM
You haven't understood well the experiment. Give it some more thought.

I have thought about it, and I do not understand why there are magnets present during the "input drop".

But anyway, forget it. It is like pulling teeth to get any kind of suggestion from you regarding an objective test that would convincingly prove or disprove your theory.  You really don't seem to care about this, and as a proponent of something that contradicts accepted theory, I would think you would care a little more.  Maybe you have your reasons for this, but it seems to me like you are carefully avoiding any objective test that could disprove your position.  It's like the excess energy exists, but only for a split magical moment, and it cannot be measured with any modern device, or it disappears.  Only in the correct sequential oscillating resonating stacked SMOT arrangement, like that of the genius xpenzif, will this magical energy show itself.  Good luck with that.

Omnibus

Quote from: shruggedatlas on November 18, 2007, 11:50:58 AM
Quote from: Omnibus on November 18, 2007, 01:46:39 AM
You haven't understood well the experiment. Give it some more thought.

I have thought about it, and I do not understand why there are magnets present during the "input drop".

But anyway, forget it. It is like pulling teeth to get any kind of suggestion from you regarding an objective test that would convincingly prove or disprove your theory.  You really don't seem to care about this, and as a proponent of something that contradicts accepted theory, I would think you would care a little more.  Maybe you have your reasons for this, but it seems to me like you are carefully avoiding any objective test that could disprove your position.  It's like the excess energy exists, but only for a split magical moment, and it cannot be measured with any modern device, or it disappears.  Only in the correct sequential oscillating resonating stacked SMOT arrangement, like that of the genius xpenzif, will this magical energy show itself.  Good luck with that.
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I'm not avoiding your tests. On the contrary, I commented on them and I told you several times that they are not good tests for measuring excess energy because there is no excess energy in your tests. I also told you that excess energy is measured quantitatively directly in the SMOT experiment.

As for Naudin's experiment, please understand that the initial height at which the ball is lifted and from which the ball later falls (losing that initially imparted energy) when let go in the actual experiment and in the control experiment is one are the same. Therefore, the energy imparted to the ball when lifting it at this same height in the actual and in the control experiment should be the same. Thus, when falling from the same height the ball in the actual and in the control experiment should lose the same energy (should reach the same distance in the graduated tube). These energies, however, are not even the same, despite the ball being lifted at the same height, but in the actual experiment that initially imparted energy is less (because of the greater magnetic drag) than in the control experiment (where the magnetic drag is weaker--the magnets are pulled apart). Therefore, the ball in the actual experiment should lose less energy when it falls and should go a shorter distance in the glass tube than the ball in the control experiment, as is required if CoE is obeyed. However, as the experiment shows, the ball in the actual experiment, contrary to the expectations, reaches farther distance in the glass tube than the distance the ball reaches in the control experiment. This is in clear violation of CoE.