Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[Localjoe]

@steve

Easiest way ive foudn to do taht is  this, Put a pot or rehostat in line with the motor thats doign the timing operation so we can adjust its speed wtih a knob. then scope the output of the ac on the secondary to see waht timings produce the largest spikes. 
                                                                                           Joe

[canada765]

@ Joe, Everyone

Yea the rheostat in line to the power of the motor should work fine. Also it's possible to adjust the duty cycle (on and off time) of the pulse by adding or removing magnets to the disc. One way to have a 50% duty cycle (where the on pulse = off pulse) just line up enough magnets to cover 1/2 the circumference (end to end) on the disc. That can be played with and adjusted fairly easily. How important the pulse width will be ultimately I don't know but at least it can be adjusted if necessary by moving  the magnets around. I think Chad just had 4 magnets equally spaced on the outter part of the disk if I'm not mistaken and that could work just fine... The only thing you have to remember is where there is a magnet you will have an "on" condition when it passes the reed switch. (which is connected to the 5 & 6 contacts)

The only problem about determining the frequency (of the make n' break) is that most people don't have scopes or frequency counters and for those who don't they can just adjust the rheostat slowly and monitor the output voltage of the secondary with a meter. They won't be able to determine the frequency of the "make n' break" but should be able to see if there are any increases in voltage while playing with the rheostat. Clear as mud hopefully ? If anyone is confused I'll attempt to clear it up, hopefully I'm not losing anyone...

Cheers,
Steve

[electricme]

@ll
Been away again and refreshed.
Jim

@ steve
welcome,  I read your info on the making and breaking of coil contacts, thats correct about them burning out, I was once told by one of my bosses in telecom, if you don't want them to arc, then set up a series of switches in the circuit. He was right, it stopped the arcing.
But to use that method in a rotrary magnet, wouldnt work unless it was precicely setup.

Looking at my cro, the wave form is not constant like the usual sine square wave, it varies considerabbly, in fact the peeks and lows have the wobbles all over the place, the amplitude, goes up and down, nothing is constant.
In fact, to be honest, it appears there is a multiplude of signals, I'm just being swamped with signals, what it is, is anyones guess.

I was thinking of another way to do this, (all thery mind you).
Setup 2 NS cells, using one to be the controller of the other NS cell, as the pulses arrive, they could be collapsed at the top of the pulse by a transister (BC458) which could in turn drive a (2n3055) to take the heavy current, in the 2nd NS cell.
Have reverse diodes to prevent any Trs being blown.
I also think a resisteor has to be in the primary somewhere, dont know why,just a hunch, I think at some stage, someone said they are getting warmth in their cells, this is "excess" energy being radiated as heat. If anyone shorts a secondary output on a ordinary transformer, the iron core saturates and it gets hot, sometimes they burn out.

Just a thought.

@ jeanna,
All is happy in the camp, chin up mate.
Remember my 1st post? I mentioned you were the one who was the most determined, sometimes we need a rudder to keep us on line, (I do at times) so dont give up.

@ all
Who loves to dive into the device when it says, break the seal and the warranty is broken? I sure doooooo, I lov v v e it.
Why, because theres nothing like hands on experience to find out what and how it works.

Whats a transformer? Grab a redundant plug Pak that goes in the wall, tap it all around the black side where the seam is (breaks the glue) with a hammer. Then prise it apart with a screwdriver. (wear safety glasses). watch the pinkies.

You should see a square thing, thats the transformer, the primary winding is the wires going to the wall pins, the secondary is the wires going to a small diode and capacitor which feed the long wires going from the plug pak.

This is an exercise for those of you who have never looked into a plugpak lol.


I found a microwave at the local dump, got the transformer, micro switches, HV capacitor (.95F AC) fast switching diodes (2) and some relays etc etc.

@Bill n Joe
Take a looksee at sillicon chipp this month, big article on super capacitors, I got the full info so to speak, let me know if you need more enlightening.

wow theres a lot on this post [51] n [50]
PS don't put the wires feed from the rods in the ground, on the tip of your tongue, it hurts more than a 9v batt ouch big time.
lol 
jim 

[canada765]

@ Jim

Thanks for the welcome Jim.

>I was once told by one of my bosses in telecom, if you don't want them to arc, then set up a series >of switches in the circuit. He was right, it stopped the arcing.
>But to use that method in a rotrary magnet, wouldnt work unless it was precicely setup.
>
>Looking at my cro, the wave form is not constant like the usual sine square wave, it varies >considerabbly, in fact the peeks and lows have the wobbles all over the place, the amplitude, goes >up and down, nothing is constant.
>In fact, to be honest, it appears there is a multiplude of signals, I'm just being swamped with signals, >what it is, is anyones guess.

Are you talking about looking at the voltage (with the Cro) on the primary winding or what? I'm a little lost if your not. It's my feeling that the on/off puse generated using a motor with a spinning disc with magnets would produce a pretty clean on/off pulse. I also think, for this thread anyway, Joe's intent was to try to build this thing using materials that could be found when NS was building it. True that reed switches did not exist that I know of but it's relatively simple technology still and just replacing the idea of using copper brushes to make the contacts instead with the rotating disk. Nothing wrong with your transistor idea, just that the technology hadn't been "invented/given-to-us-by-aliens" yet (I'm not saying don't pursue it however) 

>wow theres a lot on this post [51] n [50]

Ah I was having some difficulty sleeping and my hand would not shut up so thare you go, lol

>PS don't put the wires feed from the rods in the ground, on the tip of your tongue, it hurts more than >a 9v batt ouch big time.
>lol 

Now that was a worthwhile experiment ! lol . If it seemed like there was more power than what you get from a 9V that is interesting, your mouth never lies right (at least I hope not), lol

Steve

[electricme]

@ Steve,
Yop, I have no probs building the Stubblefield cells using the original methods, in fact I encourage it, when there is a working cell, then I think thats the time to make it different, but only when we have reached that position Steve.

I would love anyone reading this, to post a photo (close up) of an original NS cell, I want to take a close up look at the insulation, see if just the iron wire or copper wire is insulated with cotton or silk, etc, or both are insulated. If only there was one.

Using reed switches, Steve, I have no experience with them, but im sure they could give some results, if the 7 or 8 hz freq alters or jumps around, then I was thinking it would be difficult to speedup or slow down a spinning disk to keep frequency lock.
I saw only photo where a NS cell was hooked up to a phone, but, I think Stubblefield was using the coil as a frequency locking timing device, but not having been there to actually see this, I cannot say yes for sure.

Steve if you take a look back about 5 eposodes, you will see I claimed some readings with my cro, well it seems they were tainted by the earth return from my house, so I have to begin all over again.

This time, I am reading the CRO without  cliping the earth, only using a probe. Not much to report about them.



BTW, if you live in the neighbourhood of Bill, why dont you two get together and make that trip to the mesumn, like Bill was going to do with Maddog? Two heads are better than one, two sets of eyes may not miss seeing something just one set might have missed.

I believe there is a trunk of Stubblefields there somewhere hidden away.
Jim