Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[jeanna]

@all

I never quite got why this battery still seems to elude most .

Its simple ?

Try it.
It will be excellent to have your creative excellence join this endeavor!
It doesn't work as well as stubblefield evidently got it to work.
I have had the 5,6 connected together on my EER and I get nice results but they were still millivolts of jagged AC. And even then, I did not get any results from the secondary.

It is wired like a joule thief yet we are not to connect the outside wires to anything,
It is a magnetic inductor
an induction coil
galvanic battery (but a really bad one)
wired in the center tapped way of the joule thief.
It is very intriguing , and it eludes us all...so far!

There is a faint possiblity that what I did last summer will work if only I make it with a 2000 turn secondary!! But there was little indication that this would work because even with a low power joule thief you get at least one volt per turn on the secondary pick up and the secondary was like dead.
So, it might work, but we have still not been able to make it do that.

Some of us keep trying. 

@Gary,
your ideas are intriguing and add to this.
hmmm.

jeanna

[Mk1]

@jeanna

Iron .85 copper .35  potential of .5v the electrolyte needs to be good ,it may have been done on purpose to not swallow earth kick.

It should be easy the use zinc plated iron , and silver plated copper .

Silver .15  zinc 1.25  potential 1.15v good electrolyte ,

anode must be covered not direct contact with electrolyte. That why you need cotton to cover it.


After that the battery need to be massive , there is no comment i see on the secondary material .

Line 65 on the patent , it is said :

when the ordinary (make and break *)of the
primary current produced within the coil 4 is made between the terminals of said coil 4



(make and break) On Off , connection of the battery generates current in the secondary.

You need to switch it , it was invented for the telegraph and that is a on off switch.

So how do you like this ?

Mark



http://www.google.com/patents?id=Q19NAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=nathan+stubblefield+earth+battery&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=1#v=onepage&q=nathan%20stubblefield%20earth%20battery&f=false

 

[jeanna]

All I can say now, Mark is that you must not have read much of this thread or the other one that Bill started about stubblefield bifilar coils.

I love this patent. I used to read it once per day as I was able to understand one more thing each time I tried.

It is very easy to SAY that it must be big, but it is not an easy thing to wind.
The cloth gets in the way and it becomes frustrating because you must make sure the cloth never moves away from the copper wire...

You have the right ideas. Many people disagreed with me when I said the things you have just said.
Please make one and wind a secondary.

I know the ground is frozen where you live, but it makes an excellent joule thief with secondary. Now, is that not interesting?

Make one! you will like it, and you will be a most welcome addition to this thread.
And, yes it also picks up radiant energy too. It is an antenna. It is a little bit of everything that works!

jeanna

[Mk1]

@jeanna

I would really do it if i had material for it , i still don't see how we we can't see that first it is made for a telegraph , you send impulse from the secondary .

When ever the lead 5 and 6 connect together like when the transistor on the joule thief , the core turns into an electro-magnet , like the ns battery to produced pulse on the secondary , that can only be seen on connect end disconnect. Edit :And most likely need to be rectified to be seen , just to be sure put a cap to see if it charges up.

So lets learn from this iron need a large enough to first produce enough magnetism at low current level and be easily coupled to the secondary .

Now the real fun would be to put a small transistor that would work on the same battery , and we would have a self run jt...

I will check what i have laying around.

But my budget is less then zero.

I hope this time it is clearer .

Mark

edit also i usually get better result from home battery after dipping the metal in metal javel.

[jeanna]

@jeanna

I would really do it if i had material for it , i still don't see how we we can't see that first it is made for a telegraph , you send impulse from the secondary .

When ever the lead 5 and 6 connect together like when the transistor on the joule thief , the core turns into an electro-magnet , like the ns battery to produced pulse on the secondary , that can only be seen on connect end disconnect. Edit :And most likely need to be rectified to be seen , just to be sure put a cap to see if it charges up.

I believe this IS what I was seeing last summer.
It was only millivolts. It also had a very wide variation and when I added something I thought might help the variations overlapped so much it was very hard to say for sure.

Now the real fun would be to put a small transistor that would work on the same battery , and we would have a self run jt...

How would you connect this?

I used the twisted 5,6 in the pos of the battery like a jt toroid and it worked really well., so it works well with a transistor, but I used an external battery.

You have 5 wire ends if you count the twisted 5.6 as one.
What would you connect/
I have a few of these lying around, and if you want to draw it, I could try it (inside, please... for now!)

edit also i usually get better result from home battery after dipping the metal in metal javel.

What is metal javel? Is that something that takes away rust?

jeanna