Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[Pirate88179]

A word about the rebar.  I checked into using that in the early days.  What I found, at least in the local supply places like Lowes and Home Depot, was that there was not all that much iron in them.  I had my trusty large neo mag with me and tested various materials.  The magnet stuck to the rebar to be sure but could be removed very easily as if it were a weak refrigerator magnet, maybe even weaker attraction.

When I tested those galvanized 12" long spikes, it took both hands to remove the neo so I knew the iron content was high.  That is what I ended up using.

But, as Jeanna has pointed out, just because my spikes had a high iron content does not make them soft iron.  There is no reason they would make those from soft iron so I doubt they are.

Hans had said long ago that you can find soft iron cores in transformer coils because it gives up its magnetized state very quickly (Like Jeanna pointed out) and therefore can switch on and off (for lack of better terms) faster.  So, maybe we need to check for large transformer coils or, google soft iron but, google might confuse the word "soft" to mean lack of hardness which has nothing to do with the properties we are seeking, at least to my understanding.

Jeanna may be right about our cores being the reason we did not have the success that Mr. Stubblefield was able to achieve.

Bill

[bigred262626]

A word about the rebar.  I checked into using that in the early days.  What I found, at least in the local supply places like Lowes and Home Depot, was that there was not all that much iron in them.  I had my trusty large neo mag with me and tested various materials.  The magnet stuck to the rebar to be sure but could be removed very easily as if it were a weak refrigerator magnet, maybe even weaker attraction.

When I tested those galvanized 12" long spikes, it took both hands to remove the neo so I knew the iron content was high.  That is what I ended up using.

But, as Jeanna has pointed out, just because my spikes had a high iron content does not make them soft iron.  There is no reason they would make those from soft iron so I doubt they are.

Hans had said long ago that you can find soft iron cores in transformer coils because it gives up its magnetized state very quickly (Like Jeanna pointed out) and therefore can switch on and off (for lack of better terms) faster.  So, maybe we need to check for large transformer coils or, google soft iron but, google might confuse the word "soft" to mean lack of hardness which has nothing to do with the properties we are seeking, at least to my understanding.

Jeanna may be right about our cores being the reason we did not have the success that Mr. Stubblefield was able to achieve.

Bill

Hello Bill,

I have watched all your you tube vids, and I admire your work. 

If the result is to catch magnetic fluctuations, how about using a Ferrite rod? (http://cgi.ebay.com/Large-balun-ferrite-rods-10x200mm-Lot-of-4_W0QQitemZ380169451474QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5883dd77d2  )  Wouldn't it give the Iron like quality's, without the residual magnetic problem?  Just a thought.

Take care,
Jimmy

[Pirate88179]

Hello Bill,

I have watched all your you tube vids, and I admire your work. 

If the result is to catch magnetic fluctuations, how about using a Ferrite rod? (http://cgi.ebay.com/Large-balun-ferrite-rods-10x200mm-Lot-of-4_W0QQitemZ380169451474QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5883dd77d2  )  Wouldn't it give the Iron like quality's, without the residual magnetic problem?  Just a thought.

Take care,
Jimmy

Jimmy:

Thank you.

Hey, this is a good idea here.  Yes, this is exactly why ferrite is used for cores and toroids.  Stubblefield did not have access to ferrite back then.  But, as Jeanna said, what was very common and used all the time was soft iron.  So now we here in the future do not have that as a common material but, as you so wonderfully pointed out, we do have ferrite, which may actually be better!

Great idea man, I wish I had thought of it.  What does everyone think about this possibility?

Bill

[MW383]

The interception of natural earth magnetics and potential frequency of has been a large source of my latest outdoor experiments of late. Systems have been constructed and some interesting results observed. Ferrite an interesting idea too. As stated previously I have been achieving some interesting results in this area along a different approach.

In regards to soft iron, I think it is time for me to go out into my old dairy barn and grab some long carriage bolts I have out there. Barn is pre-1900 along with these bolts. Bolts I have range in size but are typically 1/2" OD by 12" long which is good enough to construct a test coil with. Regarding cotton covered copper wires; order placed. So as far as historical materials; between pre-1900 bolt and cotton covered copper wire, things are getting more antique by the minute. I do have some very old iron wire out in barn as well but I do not know if it will be enough for a decent sized coil, I'll check when returning home. Basically it is very old electric fence material, probably pre-1940's based on dating of the things it is attached to. All of this stuff was saved during recent restoration efforts being done to this building. I'll play around and see what transpires. Chances are high that there will be little interest to this audience but to satsify my own curiosity I will proceed.

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[jeanna]

What does everyone think about this possibility?

It sounds really possible.
I think I will try welding rods first.
I actually have a ferrite stick, but it is extremely low permeability high flux, and I do not think I will be winding a stubblefield on it just to see.
In fact I bought it at the size that it is in the hopes that it would fit inside the straw I used for some of my non galvanic stubblefield coils. (it turned out to be too fat. aargh!)

I am so glad there are fresh ideas here.
Keep em coming guys!

thank you,

jeanna