Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[Doug1]

I just thought I would post more info on the two people that used this energy. I want to give as much information as I can post in Word Doc.
John B

Thank you for the file it was good a good read.
  It would read far easier if the pages were in order of succession. A little touch of A.D.D. was the only way it was possible to read it and comprehend it the first time through.
N.S. 's experience are not unreasonable to expect. he like others who see things for their benefit to the human condition seldom take into account the economic impact to the established industries who would be adversely effected. These industries are funded by the venture capitalists who new inventors unwittingly go to for financial support. It would be even more astonishing if these financial institutions would be supportive in competitive technologies.

[electricme]

@Jim,
I am thinking that the iron wire is being selfinduced as the adjacent copper wire normally is, but because it is iron it is able to hold that induced magnetic influence and slowly release it...
Well, slowly compared to copper.

Now, as it slowly releases its induced magnetism it converts to electricity in the copper wire which re-induces the iron wire and...

All this time the cap may be refilling and re-emptying.

It is clear that the time without the battery is more than 2 times the time touching the battery, as you said.

I am wondering why john bedini didn't make a bedini motor with the coil like this instead of all copper.

jeanna

@Jeanna,
You may be right, there is one way to see if this theory is right, that is  to connect a sensitive amp meter (analog) between the power sorce and the load.
If you see the needle swing one way, then it go the other way, then this would reflect the currents direction each time it changes.

I think the needle/pointer would spend most of its time pointing to the discharge side, very little on the charge side.

Now, the Bedini coil made with "insulated" iron wire, in theory you could remove the iron bolt and allow the iron wire to take it's place, it could also open up a new realm of Bedini experiments, I would like to hear what JB has to say on this one, but it would be very interresting indeed.

I could see one could use a bifilar or trifilar, or even a quadfilar wound coil
The first copper and Iron wire connected in the usual way, the other wires (copper) as output wires, a bit like marrying up the stubblefield inside a Bedini.

The outputs could be configured as a series connection (higher volt out) or as a paralleled output (lower volt Double current out) or as a center tap output Hi-0-low out.

Very interresting indeed.

jim

[resonanceman]

I didn't realise Gary suggested that.  Where was that?

Protomom

It was just  one of my theorys
It came to me after reading about one of Teslas motors
The armature of this motor  had bars of iron cast into  a copper cylinder
No wire at all

The  book said that the motor worked  because  of the phase difference  between  the 2 metals

Now........if the phase difference is  enough to drive a motor  it might  be part of what is  going on in the  Stubblfield  coil

Now

If  the  2 metals  of the primary are in series
The  circuit would  be  faster metal ( probably  the iron )
then the slower metal

The  slower metal primary would then  be connected to the secondary
possably though  an interrupter..


If the pulse  in the secondary  is large enough to  start  a new pulse in the primarys  you  have a closed system.

gary

[resonanceman]

@Jeanna,
You may be right, there is one way to see if this theory is right, that is  to connect a sensitive amp meter (analog) between the power sorce and the load.
If you see the needle swing one way, then it go the other way, then this would reflect the currents direction each time it changes.

I think the needle/pointer would spend most of its time pointing to the discharge side, very little on the charge side.

Now, the Bedini coil made with "insulated" iron wire, in theory you could remove the iron bolt and allow the iron wire to take it's place, it could also open up a new realm of Bedini experiments, I would like to hear what JB has to say on this one, but it would be very interresting indeed.

I could see one could use a bifilar or trifilar, or even a quadfilar wound coil
The first copper and Iron wire connected in the usual way, the other wires (copper) as output wires, a bit like marrying up the stubblefield inside a Bedini.

The outputs could be configured as a series connection (higher volt out) or as a paralleled output (lower volt Double current out) or as a center tap output Hi-0-low out.

Very interresting indeed.

jim

Jim

I do not think the phase  could be seen with a meter
I think it would take a dual channel Oscope
WIth a channel on  each  leg it  would  be easy to see the phase difference
Just  power  a secondary  with some kind  of a signal.......maybe a JT....... and watch the  primarys


gary

[resonanceman]

I am thinking that the iron wire is being selfinduced as the adjacent copper wire normally is, but because it is iron it is able to hold that induced magnetic influence and slowly release it...
Well, slowly compared to copper.

interesting  theory
My theory is ...... the magnetic  flux is attrracted to the iron  wire  in a similar way a magnet is attrracted to iron.......... so........the initial flux should  induce a current  in the iron first.
It may remain in the  iron longer for the same reasonsl......but I am guessing it  becomes electrical current once it contacts the iron.

gary