Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[tgraca]

So, I ran a quick test on materials to determine which ones to work with, which I included in this video.
http://youtu.be/T_SlWrkbc_g

I just stopped into the local hardware store in invested another $3.09 into large bolts of various materials.
It seems aluminum and copper is my best bet. I did find some 1/4" copper pipe for $0.99/foot which
might be a better solution than copper pipe. It costs a bit less than the 1/2" diameter pipe per foot and
I can "wrap" it into a coil. I would have to drive about 60 miles round trip to pick up the copper ground
wire, so I am leaning toward this now.

Your comments and suggestions are appreciated. Here's the first draft of what I have in mind. I am
thinking in terms of 30 earth batteries in series to get 18 volts. I will probably have to run 3-4 rows of
these batteries to make them fit my back yard. That's about 300 feet of insulated copper wire to
connect the rows (pos to neg per row) and about 300' of un-insulated aluminum to connect the earth
batteries (pos to neg per battery), plus the metal in the earth batteries.

I have a few months to plan and do the initial tests and plan to run some 1, 2 and 3 cell tests initially
before I make that kind of commitment. I would like to get at least 1 amp per battery to create 18 watts
(18 volts times 1 amp), but I may need a large design per earth battery.

Again, I look forward to any comments and suggestions as I read through this thread.

[tgraca]

Earth battery cost analysis: I can get a pallet of solar panels delivered for $1,500, which (with an average
of 8 hours per day) equates to 28,000 watt hours per day, or 28 kWh per day. The disadvantage of solar
panels is that they are above ground, have to be mounted in some way (mount costs) and may occasionally
have to be cleaned, maintained, or snow shoveled off the panels. I always recommend a back yard
installation if possible, but that still takes up A LOT of space and is ugly in my opinion and at least hard to
incorporate elegantly into your backyard space. It takes significant landscaping skills and is expensive to
make the panels look at least ok and much more to make them look really cool. Making basic mounts out
of treated wood would cost at least $500 in materials, so lets round it to $2,000 for 28 kWh per day, or
~ $0.07 per watt hour per day.

If I can meet my goal of 18 volts at 1 amp, that's 18 watt hours, but this is 24 hours per day, which equates
to 432 watt hours per day (24 hours times 18 watts). Based on the the material costs, I am anticipating the
cost per 30 earth battery system to be about $52, or $0.12 per watt hour.

So, at best, it's more expensive, but has the advantages mentioned (everything is underground / it's
unobtrusive), plus there is a lower investment to get started (about $80 versus $1,500).

Issue... can I really get 18 watts per 30 earth batteries? If less, then that increases the cost per watt hour.

Your thoughts?

[Pirate88179]

I just stopped into the local hardware store in invested another $3.09 into large bolts of various materials.
It seems aluminum and copper is my best bet. I did find some 1/4" copper pipe for $0.99/foot which
might be a better solution than copper pipe. It costs a bit less than the 1/2" diameter pipe per foot and
I can "wrap" it into a coil. I would have to drive about 60 miles round trip to pick up the copper ground
wire, so I am leaning toward this now.

Your comments and suggestions are appreciated. Here's the first draft of what I have in mind. I am
thinking in terms of 30 earth batteries in series to get 18 volts. I will probably have to run 3-4 rows of
these batteries to make them fit my back yard. That's about 300 feet of insulated copper wire to
connect the rows (pos to neg per row) and about 300' of un-insulated aluminum to connect the earth
batteries (pos to neg per battery), plus the metal in the earth batteries.

I have a few months to plan and do the initial tests and plan to run some 1, 2 and 3 cell tests initially
before I make that kind of commitment. I would like to get at least 1 amp per battery to create 18 watts
(18 volts times 1 amp), but I may need a large design per earth battery.

Again, I look forward to any comments and suggestions as I read through this thread.

I had tried several years ago to wire up my eb in series with no success.  It was explained to me (waaay back in this topic) that I would not be able to do so as
my electrodes all shared the same electrolyte. (The earth)

I have seen videos where folks work around this by using dirt in containers sitting on their deck and thereby they are isolated, but I am not sure that this would really be an earth battery then.  My guess is that if they did a scope shot of that arrangement, there would be no large spikes seen.  Also, I believe they would see degradation of their cathodes.

Bill

[tgraca]

I had tried several years ago to wire up my eb in series with no success.  It was explained to me (waaay back in this topic) that I would not be able to do so as my electrodes all shared the same electrolyte. (The earth)

Although I haven't "seen" this done on YouTube or anywhere else, I have interviewed an inventor that has
moved his free energy device to Asia (because the US harassed him - he will sell everywhere but the US),
and he said he had done this successfully. He said the electrodes need to be at least 10' apart for this to work.

His system is 4 posts in a square, each with a 6-filer with 5 leads attached to the ground per 6-filer,
12 wraps above ground for each of the posts (120' per ground), and somehow he gets 6 circuits out of this...
I never understood how to do this, but I am a month overdue for another phone call, so maybe I can get
this clarified. I have done several drawings, but I can not visually reconcile 6 circuits with 4 grounds and
4 six-filars. I just left him a message. Hopefully he will get back with me this week and clarify this.

Anyway...  I will test this 10' idea soon.

[tgraca]

Although I haven't "seen" this done on YouTube or anywhere else, I have heard the electrodes need to be at least 10' apart for this to work.
Anyway...  I will test this 10' idea soon.

So here's the test... also, I have tested the power of 2 cells with 2' of copper pipe 1/2" diameter.

http://youtu.be/ddogZ9EOLsk

I will have to think about where to go from here. One thing for sure, I can get much more power from crystal batteries for 1/20th the
cost of materials and they work in series.