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Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

Started by Localjoe, October 19, 2007, 02:42:39 PM

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Pirate88179

@ All:

Below is copied and pasted from something I just read about a use for some of the new supercapacitors:


"The new Coleman Flash Cell screwdriver can recharge in 90 seconds flat and it doesn?t use a single battery to do it. How can that be? Rather than rely on rechargeable batteries that can take up to an hour and a half to charge up, the Coleman design relies and a high energy capacitor. Unfortunately, while it can recharge lickety split, users will be charging their screwdriver more often than it?s lithium or NiCad cousins. A basic rechargeable battery powered screwdriver can handle around 35-40 screws between recharge cycles, while the FlashCell gives out after a little over half that (22).


Now while having recharge the capacitor so often may sound like a royal pain, the advantage the FlashCell has is that the capacitor doesn?t have to deal with dying over time (it has a rated charging life of about 500,000 charging cycles) or dealing with memory issues due to inactivity. After remaining idle for months, the maker of the Flash Cell - Products International ? claims that the FlashCell will retain about 85% of its charge. That?s pretty impressive.

What?s cool about it is that while this is a new technology, since tools like this stay idle for a long time with the average household user. And while the power needs of other tools probably render this concept impractical, it could be the next step in focusing on more green technologies that can do the job and keep the environment healthier.

Cost is about $99."


I am pretty sure my little cap. is a super cap.  I have looked them up and found several that appear identical to mine.  I read that one of the suggested uses for the supercapacitor is to light leds over a long period of time. So, somehow these must not "dump" 66% of their charge at once.  This is possibly why they are being used in small hand tools now.  No memory problems like batteries and over 1/2 million charge/recharge cycles. I am going to see if my Local RadioShack has some.

@ Jeanna:

Best of luck with your experiments out there.  My impression is that you won't get any where near the volts you would get using carbon and magnesium, but, we will see.  Best I did here with copper was something like .8 volts or so.  Going for three volts eh?  I hope I beat you there but, I am not taking any bets on it ha ha.  I am wasting a lot of time trying to figure out what to do next while I should just be doing it.  I am going to try to crack the 2 volt reading as my next goal.  If you hit 3, I guess I'll have to re-think my approach.  Best of luck.

Merry Christmas to all who celebrate it and to all of the others I wish whatever is appropriate for this time of year in your country.

Bill


See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

sid10

Hello to all,
Just found this group last night. Finally got registered just after trying out a rod of carbon encased in very thin copper, it's what is used to arc-gouge (sp) with a welding machine. The other rod was a plain steel piece. They were placed about 16 inches apart, short leads on my meter, I was instantly amazed by the fact that I got .96 VDC @ .995  amps. This is so far out, I can just see it now, my back yard will look like a porcupine!
The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.

hartiberlin

Hi sid10,
welcome,
how did you measure exactly the amps ?
Is this a short circuit current with your DVM meter ?
Or analog amp meter ?
On what max settings of your meter did you measure it ?
Does it change on another settings of your meter,
e.g. 2 amps setting or 10 amps setting ?


Current level seems abit high for such a setup...

Do you live near a transformer station or a High voltage line ?

Please try on a real load like a 1 Ohm, 10 Ohm and 100 Ohm resistor.
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

jeanna

Quote from: sid10 on December 23, 2007, 04:06:49 PM
Hello to all,
Just found this group last night. Finally got registered just after trying out a rod of carbon encased in very thin copper, it's what is used to arc-gouge (sp) with a welding machine. The other rod was a plain steel piece. They were placed about 16 inches apart, short leads on my meter, I was instantly amazed by the fact that I got .96 VDC @ .995  amps. This is so far out, I can just see it now, my back yard will look like a porcupine!

Welcome Sid10,

This carbon rod encased on copper sounds interesting to me. As you have probably read, Pirate88179 (Bill) has achieved excellent results using carbon and Magnesium. I asked the welding "teacher" last evening for some of either and he told me he has no access. He teaches in a high school which is where I found him teaching adults to weld. Does this rod have a particular name? Are you in the US?

So, did you try your test with different N-S compass directions to find the best one? (I suspect these will vary according to our location.) Its good to include that in your tests so we are all doing the same sort of thing all around the globe.

At the moment we are trying to add to the effect we are getting from one cell. I had the very surprising result that the voltage went to zero when I tried to put them in series.

Joe made an excellent suggestion which Bill is planning to try. I am too. It rained all day so I did other things. FYI on my list is to use 3 copper tubes and wire them together then tie them to 3 zinc rods that are also wired together and measure the voltage. (That is Joe's suggestion) Also, and using the same pipes and rods I will link up 3 cells of zinc inside copper pipe with dirt also inside the pipe and red paint   (?)  on the outside of the copper pipe plastic underneath and all wired together in series.  (I am not sure who gets the credit for this one, but if it works, I will try to find that person to give credit.)

But I don't want to mess up my meter in the rain so I will do it next non raining day.

Did you set up a control for your test? just do the same thing in the house on a table. and also in water. Thus you have a control for  just the metals not touching and a regular wet cell. water or acid or what you think.

welcome to the fun.

jeanna

akashh

I guess you must have measured milliamps by mistake... unless copper/carbon is something we did not try yet.  Did anyone else test copper coated carbon rods?