Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[Pirate88179]

@ Bruce:

That's what confused me.  Volts down from 1.9 to 1.4 but mA up from 2.19 to 3.8.  I don't have any more carbon but, if I can get some money, I want to order some more rods from where Geaorge said. (McMasters) About 1/10 the price I paid!!  I think you might be correct about the balance 3+3 instead of 2+3. I would have thought all would have gone up a bit. Many experiments to do but I think with this increase, there may not be a limit like some have said early on. I want to max out both mA and volts and then...move into coils.  This is going to be fun!!!!!!!!!

Bill

[Bruce_TPU]

@ Bruce:

That's what confused me.  Volts down from 1.9 to 1.4 but mA up from 2.19 to 3.8.  I don't have any more carbon but, if I can get some money, I want to order some more rods from where Geaorge said. (McMasters) About 1/10 the price I paid!!  I think you might be correct about the balance 3+3 instead of 2+3. I would have thought all would have gone up a bit. Many experiments to do but I think with this increase, there may not be a limit like some have said early on. I want to max out both mA and volts and then...move into coils.  This is going to be fun!!!!!!!!!

Bill

Hey Bill,
My last post of the night.
1.9 volts x 2.19 mA =0.004161 watts

1.4 volts x 3.8 mA = 0.005320 watts

Watts is total power.  As long as we are increasing that number, we are in good shape!

Good night,
Bruce

[hansvonlieven]

G'day all,

Try this for size:

You?ll find out that earth batteries work in a very different way that

typical chemical reaction. When I began my testing (using dissimilar metals) I decided to separate the plates, zinc & copper, by a distance of thirty-two feet. The soil was BONE DRY as we were in a drought. The plates worked equally well whether placed next to each other and wetted or thirty-two feet apart in BONE DRY earth.

They will also work if made from similar plate material. Thirty two feet is far too distant to maintain ion stripping as in a standard chemical battery. This is generally how I know whether or not someone is talking "hands on" or "blowing smoke". You certainly CAN cause a chemical reaction with moist earth and dissimilar plates, but the Earth Battery effect transcends standard chemical ion stripping theories.

Try your own experiments and you?ll see!

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Again this is nothing new. Poor soil conditions result in a difference of potential. This is why in communications one has to run ground tests. Also another reason some places has to put in a ground field.

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I wonder if depending on your soil if two dissimilar materials can be

put in the soil and the chemical reaction between the two would

produce a small voltage? But can enough be made to be useful if this

is possible.

    *
    * Firstly, ZINC is not hard to come by at all. Any "galvanized" sheet metal
    * is zinc coated and available in hardware stores and roofing supply stores,
    * metal siding suppliers, etc. You can also find large sheets of copper at
    * the same suppliers. If you wish to supplement a chemical reaction, pour
    * liquid bleach over the area of your EB.
    *
    * Excepting minor diurnal fluctuations, my Earth Batteries are quite stable thru 4
    * seasons. I am making use of the "power" as we speak! I live on natural
    * energy, the nearest power lines being ? mile away. As far as
    * configuration, place them as close to a tree as you can if possible,
    * experiment with different configurations. I have found the greatest
    * potential by establishing the plates at right angle vectors. I have used
    * several combinations, copper, zinc zinc, copper zinc, and have found
    * NO difference of potential! But then I?m not trying to re-invent the wheel
    * by using the earth as a chemical battery, I?m trying to attract and utilize
    * the subtle energies found in all of nature.


found on :  http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/earthbatteries.htm

Hans von Lieven

[Pirate88179]

@ Bruce:

Thanks for the information.  Wow, that is lower watts than I thought. Heading the right way but, I never calculated the watts before.  and yes, I agree, power is everything.  So, as long as watts are going up, it does not matter about anything else. Great point.

@ mramos:

Again, forgive my ignorance, but I was looking over some of my electronics textbooks and I agree that my "circuit" is in series.  So, when I remove it from the cell and connect the red + lead to the + anode of the led it then becomes parallel? I am not arguing as I have no knowledge foundation here from which to do so. Can you elaborate a little on that?  I know this should not be "Basic, elementary electronics 101" but I am missing something here on this as I think some others may be as well as there has been a little debate (debate is good) over which is which in this circuit.  I would greatly appreciate that. I see now from Bruce's post that the watts are still very low here.  My point was that at least we are going the proper direction, we just have a lot longer way to go than I had thought.  I am liking the induction coil cells ideas more and more.  I still think it is good that we approached it this way because if not, we might have built an improper induction cell and got .25 vdc and thought that was good.  I mean, the poor fellows over at the pyramid experiments are dealing in milliVOLTS and are happy when they get some.  I am still puzzled by the possible (definite in your case) ac component here.  Still a lot to be sorted out.  Also, why is my cell arrangement as now being used (as per my very crude sketch posted a bit earlier) not in parallel?  Would it be if I had added another carbon rod to the mix?  I guess I am missing more basic information than I thought.  Thanks for your help on this project.

@ Hans:

Another excellent find!  So, this guy is running off the grid using similar techniques to ours?  Stuff like this is good as it gives me hope.  and he does not appear to be using coils.  Hmmmm.....Great post!

Bill

[jeanna]

I'm going to post a drawing of the circuits that I we are talking about. I hope it is legible and small enough. I go to the co op today so I can not keep on it, but

I am asking which one is series and which is parallel. I have been calling #1 the series and #2 the parallel.

The calculations for caps are opposite those for resistors so I may be calling it the wrong thing. mramos please clarify this for me and/or all of us.

thanks,

jeanna