Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[Pirate88179]

@ Hans:

Yes!  I should have known that.  Thank you.  The magnet is either on, or off.  It is either energized enough to attract, or it isn't. I should have thought that through more before I posted.  Thanks for setting me straight.

Bill

[jikwan]

can i make suggestion?
take it or leave it-just a half baked idea

some years ago i studied under a chi master in los angeles
he showed me how to find power spots using a pedulum or divining rods
some people use forked branches
can find water, oil etc
these power spots give good, powerfull chi energy  very healing
can find also bad chi spots (perhaps theres water running directly beneath which makes you ill

power spots may put out a lot more voltage

[jeanna]

The iron wire might be riding dirty with the bolt... Maybe getting there thang on, inducing a little flux in each other

Now I see . Yes, this is what I was thinking might be happening. Hoping might...

If this is already inducing some magnetism, I think we are really on the right track.
I assume we have all made slightly different versions so we have a lot of information available already.

On my 12 inch spikes, the influence seems to be 12 inches beyond the top and bottom. The biggest influence is around the tops where the 4 terminals (10 Fe, 10 Cu, both ends of each) are.

Also, I think the guy on the radio said some bizarre things.
1) He said to use #6 size wire.  #6 wire is as thick as car jumper cables. I don't know that I believe that this patent calls for that thick a piece of copper and HOW would you wrap a piece of iron that thick and the patent picture shows 5 but the number of wraps must be an even number so 4 or 6 This #6 wire sounds very wrong.

2) Did he start this idea that the core is removed or  made of wood? I don't believe it is at all. In fact because of the magnetism I am seeing, I think the core spike is a very important part of the build up which produces the current that will go in the secondary. (I vote to call it the secondary because it is in the customary secondary config. and bifilar is the primary.

which brings me to this.

Hans, Am I understanding that you are proposing that we excite this by shocking the secondary? I am reading that the secondary is the load carrying element of this design.

please see page 2 LL 76 to 86:

It will also be obvious that by reason of the magnetic properties of the coil body 4, the core piece 1 will necessarily be magnetized while a current is going through the body 4 so that the battery may be used as a self generating electromagnet, if so desired, it being observed that to secure this result is simply required connecting the extended terminals of the wires 5 and 6 together after wetting or dampening the coil body.

(coil body 4 is the bifilar coil) (and outside pair of terminals 5 and 6 are to be used for a load in the case that it is being used strictly as a galvanic device, which it is clear to us that it is NOT his intention of the patent.)  However, once the outer terminals of 5 and 6 are connected to each other, the magnetic field begins to spontaneously occur and the iron core keeps it going for some reason.

What is obvious to me more and more is that NS never intended this to be a galvanic device or he would have used zinc covered iron. He clearly stated iron. We who have poked and prodded our patches of earth have learned that iron and copper only produce around 14 millivolts of galvanic action. I assume NS knew this as well as we do. (Joe and Bill instinctively grabbed zinc bolts because the experience has taught us that if it is galvanic reaction we are producing we would be better served by zinc plated iron than by plain iron.)

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so, what does all this mean? I don't know but here are some clues.

1) The iron core (1) is magnetically very important.

2) The core piece( 4) , which is the  bifilar windings which are around the iron stake is what starts the reaction once the outside terminals (10 outer labeled 5,6)  are connected to each other.

3) and the reaction although initially slightly galvanic turns quickly into a

4) magnetic reaction which then fires up the

5) solenoid. The solenoid is what has the real load applied to it.

All comments are welcome.

jeanna

@Hans,
Thank you for this easy looking switch. I need this kind of begging stuff to put my hands on. It really looks do-able.

[georgemay]

1) He said to use #6 size wire.  #6 wire is as thick as car jumper cables.

Jeanna,

Is #6 and AWG 6 is the same thing?  I just checked here : http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm
and gauge 6 wire is 0.162" or a little over 4mm.  It still looks a little heavy though.  If we could peek at the real Stubblefield battery only for a second that would help us a lot.  It is really difficult to decide what diameter wire to use at the moment. 

George 

[one]

can i make suggestion?
take it or leave it-just a half baked idea

some years ago i studied under a chi master in los angeles
he showed me how to find power spots using a pedulum or divining rods
some people use forked branches
can find water, oil etc
these power spots give good, powerfull chi energy  very healing
can find also bad chi spots (perhaps theres water running directly beneath which makes you ill

power spots may put out a lot more voltage

Jikwan

In my opinion  the energy  you  are talking about is a whole different  ball game.

I  have never heard  of a way to  directly  create   what we call  usable physical energy  with chi.

However ..... It is my theory  that  part of the  way that  Stubblfield  got as much  output  as  he did   from his  earth batterys  is that  he "  conditioned "  the batterys and the  ground around them  with  chi
I have read that after this  conditioning   the  usable  power that the battery  produced went  way up . 

gary