Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[Pirate88179]

@ Bruce:

Yes, tedious is a good word for it.  You are building the largest mass we have tried thus far I believe.  This will be interesting.  I hope you have checked each layer for shorts as you go.  I did and I am glad.  I found one little one on my first layer before I wrapped it and began the second.  Of course, with your tpu experience, I am sure you knew this already.  Anyway, a little late for me to say it now right? Ha ha.

I agree about the telluric currents when we get them in the ground.  If we can hit the resonance frequency of our coils who knows what we might see?  I have followed Dr. Stifflers work some and I see many leds illuminated but, only at the specific and correct resonance freq.

If you are buying more wire, how are you planing to add to the existing wire?  I mean, I know you can solder the copper, no problem there, but if I want to add another layer, I would also need to somehow solder the iron wire as well.  Some folks have said I could maybe silver solder it, or use the mapp gas and regular plumber's solder and flux.  I very weel might want to continue my windings at a later date.

Again, best of luck with your large induction coil.  This will be fun.

Bill

[MrSpates]

Anybody ever tried to bury a real transformer and test it? I got a couple from old microwaves that were given to me. Think I'm gonna bury one and see if I get any voltage or current, then if I dont, maybe build one of these coils like yall are building, hook it to the transformer and see what I get if anything. Worth a try.

[Bruce_TPU]

@ Bruce:

Yes, tedious is a good word for it.  You are building the largest mass we have tried thus far I believe.  This will be interesting.  I hope you have checked each layer for shorts as you go.  I did and I am glad.  I found one little one on my first layer before I wrapped it and began the second.  Of course, with your tpu experience, I am sure you knew this already.  Anyway, a little late for me to say it now right? Ha ha.

I agree about the telluric currents when we get them in the ground.  If we can hit the resonance frequency of our coils who knows what we might see?  I have followed Dr. Stifflers work some and I see many leds illuminated but, only at the specific and correct resonance freq.

If you are buying more wire, how are you planing to add to the existing wire?  I mean, I know you can solder the copper, no problem there, but if I want to add another layer, I would also need to somehow solder the iron wire as well.  Some folks have said I could maybe silver solder it, or use the mapp gas and regular plumber's solder and flux.  I very weel might want to continue my windings at a later date.

Again, best of luck with your large induction coil.  This will be fun.

Bill

Hi Bill,

The copper came in 25' sections, and I wrapped the ends and used silver solder.  For my iron wire, it is that soft iron wire used for rebar ties in concrete work, and comes in a several hundred foot roll from Lowe's.  So, my iron wire is one continuos piece, no breaks.

@ Mr. Spates
IMHO placing a transformer in the ground would have to be powered by something.  Remember, that Stubblefield's is self powered by the different metal reaction of the transformer itself.  What will happen on the secondary, is anyones guess...but I am hoping for good things.  We are approaching new ground... (all pun intended!  LOL)

Bruce

[Localjoe]

@Jeanna

Good catch on the patent..That is exactly how i think the base station transmitter works ive been putting together a theory as to how this works and had not really caught that quote but now looking at it .. "NS states on p1 lines 13-15 that he is making a constant primary current but also an induced momentary secondary current."

This is how i keep describing the base station transmitter to yall.....

Now to be a little technical

@ Bruce

Here goes part two of the theory i need to find out how the reverse operation works tho so here goes

- In the transmitter/base station model I know one thing for sure.  The wires of 5 and 6 the copper and iron from the primary are shorted , this creates  " a magnetic field inside and outside of the primary coil..

*** Key point *** Shorted primary wires = self sustaining electromagnet

I yell a ha


So by having the primary wires shorted we have induced a static mag field in the secondary.   A microphone or telegraphic relay modulates this static field present in the secondary from the primary.

If this would be true so would the converse

- In the self generating induction coil  the making and breaking of the primary coil is creating a  magnetic feild thats going on off on off in the secondary not staying static.. this seems like a tesla coil in theory to me please correct me if im wrong but once we "fire" the gap at the proper freq-the resonate freq of the secondary or 1/4 wavelength ive seen both we should be able to achieve the electrostatic magnification effect so famous of his.

So thus far i could equate that the base station transmitter has a electromagnetic magnetic field that is static not changing and is modulated by the user physically speaking into the microphone
and in turn the induction coil has a rapidly changing magnetic field that is turned on and off by any of our various means.  It would make complete sense that he achieved the power desired out of his secondary by winding it to a specific length and driving it to resonance through a built in relay....


How do relay's work think real hard folks.  our primary coil could be used as a relay.. every time we make and break the wires or something preforms that task its like shooting a coil gun a pulse goes in a direction.. Remember magnetic field inside and outside is created when the primary wires are touched together .the small inherent power were seeing now in the primary coils wires is enough to drive the relay action. Now this again is old school and i would much rather use a rotary gap in this day in age.  But I feel we should try both types rotary gap and relay to see which suits best 

[Bruce_TPU]

Hi Joe,

I will be using a relay for my make and break.  I do not think we want a continuos voltage on the primary, or else the secondary is useless. 

I do not know what will happen when we induce this transformer under ground.  One could speculate.  So I will. 

Possible things that may happen:
A.  Nothing.  We see the same output from the secondary as we will in a tub of water.
B.  We see the Telluric voltage and current we have seen before, of about 1 volt and a ma or two added to the output. 
C.  These earth batteries will be isolated and able to be wired in series and/or parallel.
D.  We see the Telluric current sucked into the magnet collector on the secondary in large quantities.
E.  We may need to add a cap to our coil (L/C) to bring it to the resonant frequency match of our make and break for greater output.
F.  We may need to add a cap to bring our coil to the resonant frequency of the telluric current, to act as a receiver.  And perhaps set our make and break to the identical frequency.  This would give us same signals (identical frequencys) but with different power sources, colliding with one another over a self powered transformer.  (You all know I am a big fan of this.  I believe it is how Tesla powered the electric car.  I think it is how the TPU works and I think it is what will make the Cook coil work.)
G.  We wind two of these, and connect them in mobius fashion similar to cooks coil and see what happens.  Both with make and breaks. 
H.  Without make and break you will have straight DC and nothing unusual.  IMHO.

Anywho, we walk before we run, and test every scenario, several times and hope for something to be seen that is unusual.

Cheers,

Bruce