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Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

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Bruce_TPU

#1370
February 12, 2008, 11:14:12 PM
Evening all,
Well, after long hours, and several sore fingers, the coil is complete and soaking in a water bath to test it.  I have decided to wait a day or two before winding the secondary.  I want to do as Bill, and test it in the dirt first, pull it, and wrap it with a secondary.

Water Bath test:
Submerged
Voltage .410
Amperage  11.3 ma's

I think it will climb as it continues to soak.  I used a Rebar Iron for my center.  Even though my totals seem less then some using zinc core, I hope that it will assist with the voltage on the secondary , having an iron core, when pulsed underground.

Testing:
1)  My copper wire is the positive and my iron wire is the negative.
2)  When touched together, and held shorted, the voltage and amperage go to zero.  When touched quickly, the ma's drop to between 2 and 4 and then straight back up.
When let loose, of course the amperage and voltage goes back to what it was.

Picture below is of completed coil.  Except for the outer wrapping of cotton fabric that I have since added.

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Pirate88179

#1371
February 12, 2008, 11:23:44 PM
@ Bruce:

Nice large coil there.  I am somewhat shocked that your numbers were not higher.  Did you try a magnet on your core at any time prior to winding?  The reason I ask is that when I went to Lowe's Home center, the "iron re bar" they showed me had very little iron in it.  My "zinc" coated iron spike has mostly iron, very high content.  That is why I went with the galvanized iron spike.  But, we don't know what will happen in the ground do we, so possibly the re bar is better and the zinc coating may muck things up.  Remains to be seen.  It is freezing rain out now and about 23 degrees going even lower tonight.  I might not be able to bury anything for a few days.

Let me know if/when your readings go up after soaking.  You have many more layers than I so possibly it takes time to saturate.  Best of luck to you Bruce. (Edit)  PS where are your other two wire ends?  I was just re-looking at you photo and only see two leads?  I think there should be 4 correct? (2 ends of cu and 2 of fe)

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

Bruce_TPU

#1372
February 12, 2008, 11:45:10 PM
Quote from: Pirate88179 on February 12, 2008, 11:23:44 PM
@ Bruce:
PS where are your other two wire ends?  I was just re-looking at you photo and only see two leads?  I think there should be 4 correct? (2 ends of cu and 2 of fe)

Bill
Hi Bill,
Yes, I tried a magnet on the rebar.  Pretty confident it is iron.  Same with the wire.

As far as there being four leads, I have two buried at the start of my first wrap.  From what I understood, those were not used for anything.  JOE is that correct, or not?  I thought the make and break goes between the one iron and one copper, is that wrong or right?

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Pirate88179

#1373
February 13, 2008, 12:11:14 AM
@ Bruce:

Yes, let Joe answer that question.  I will say that my understanding is that you tie both cu and fe together and then those are the make/break leads.  that is why I started my second coil at the top so, with the second layer, I would end up back at the top.  (My first coil has 2 leads at the top, and 2 at the bottom)  I guess they could be left open.  All of my tests for voltage, etc. have been only with any 2 leads, not with them tied together, which I have not done yet so, it probably will not matter.  I just wanted to make sure you didn't tie them together or something.  Nevermind.

PS  These are a pain to wind are they not?

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

Bruce_TPU

#1374
February 13, 2008, 12:23:57 AM
Quote from: Pirate88179 on February 13, 2008, 12:11:14 AM
@ Bruce:

Yes, let Joe answer that question.  I will say that my understanding is that you tie both cu and fe together and then those are the make/break leads.  that is why I started my second coil at the top so, with the second layer, I would end up back at the top.  (My first coil has 2 leads at the top, and 2 at the bottom)  I guess they could be left open.  All of my tests for voltage, etc. have been only with any 2 leads, not with them tied together, which I have not done yet so, it probably will not matter.  I just wanted to make sure you didn't tie them together or something.  Nevermind.

PS  These are a pain to wind are they not?

Bill

Hey Bill,
Don't scare me like that!  LOL  I was picturing myself trying to dig those two ends out.

And yes they are a pain to wrap.  I think I will try it your way next time.  Wrapping the copper all around with the cloth was very tedious.

So Bill, is you center core one of those galvanized nail spikes?  How long is it, and I think I read you have two layers.  What size copper did you use (gauge)?

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.
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