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Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

Started by Localjoe, October 19, 2007, 02:42:39 PM

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Freezer

Nice georgemay,  did you test the power output in water?  Looks real good.  I just finished winding my secondary, and need to figure out the switching.  I used about 2.5 pounds of 24g magnet wire, but don't know how many turns that is.  I had to use a drill, as I don't have any access to machinery to do that.  I'm wondering if we need to insulate or wrap a material around the final coil body.  On another note, I was getting weird reading with the continuity setting, and had to unwrap a layer, but it turned out it wasn't really shorting.

I read another story on Stubblefield, and it said that he used a form a dowsing like others have said, and if you just put it in the ground anywhere you will get regular current such as the 1 volt at 1mA.  It said that Stubblefield would spend atleast two weeks looking for this "hotspot" to bury his battery.  I'm thinking we need some type of meter or use dowsing to find these areas, or we aren't gonna produce the current Stubblefield had.

Pirate88179

@ Georgemay:

Nice looking coil!!!  As Freezer asked, have you tested it wet yet?  I just hope the nylon works like the cotton does.  As long as it passes the wetness it should put out more than we have seen thus far.  Good luck and let us know.

@Freezer:

Yes, I read the same piece on NS.  I do not buy that, however.  I believe it was written by people that did not understand what he was actually doing.  But, until we get these in the ground and do some testing, we won't know.  Bad ice storm here today.  Over 75 car wrecks in the morning.  We usually don't have any.  What unusual readings were you getting? (continuity)  I had two shorts to take care of that did not show up until wet.  I was able to track them down and fix them but the only unusual thing I observed was the shorts were not always constant.  It seemed like they would come and go.  Once fixed, no problems now.  I am interested to hear about what you observed.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

Freezer

Quote from: Pirate88179 on February 21, 2008, 11:31:57 PM
Yes, I read the same piece on NS.  I do not buy that, however.  I believe it was written by people that did not understand what he was actually doing.  But, until we get these in the ground and do some testing, we won't know.  Bad ice storm here today.  Over 75 car wrecks in the morning.  We usually don't have any.  What unusual readings were you getting? (continuity)  I had two shorts to take care of that did not show up until wet.  I was able to track them down and fix them but the only unusual thing I observed was the shorts were not always constant.  It seemed like they would come and go.  Once fixed, no problems now.  I am interested to hear about what you observed.

Bill

I think there is some truth to this, and it may be found by talking to people who specialize in grounding systems.  They talk about the hotspots and how its not the same everywhere.  If thats the case we probably need to survey a wide area to find what were looking for. 

As for the continuity, I think perhaps the wires were too close but not actually in contact, and the resistance was low enough to get a response from the meter.  It wouldn't beep, but give me a value.  Maybe it had to do with the magnetic field.  I think the cell will always be in the on position because of moister in the air even if you have never wet it.

I was messing around with a magnet to get some current in the cell.  Its interesting I can snap the magnet to the north polarity end of the cell and induce current in the secondary through the joule thief and it lights up as it comes in contact, with no light as I take it off.  I snap the other pole of the magnet to the end of the cell and no light, but when taken off it lights.  I was wondering how we want to orient this cell with respect to the polarities and earths surface.  Also the directions of the windings have to be a factor ccw/cw no?

sid10

@ Georgemay
Did you say e-bay?
If so how much on a roll and how much did it cost? If you don't mind that I ask. The only kind that I've been able to find that was priced right was nylon braid around a nylon core. Guess that the core could be removed, but that seems like a real pain
Sid
The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.

georgemay

Quote from: sid10 on February 22, 2008, 09:21:41 AM
@ Georgemay
Did you say e-bay?
If so how much on a roll and how much did it cost? If you don't mind that I ask. The only kind that I've been able to find that was priced right was nylon braid around a nylon core. Guess that the core could be removed, but that seems like a real pain
Sid

Sid,

Yes, e-bay.  at 12c per foot.
I think that wick you found is a better solution.  Cotton will retain moisture while nylon actually allow water to go trough the whole coil in an instant but also doesn't keep it there.  Water flows out quite quickly.  In the ground perhaps it may be good it may collect water and keep it there. we will see when I'll bury it.

I did water test on the coil but I am not happy.  It generates just .5V and few mw.    I used iron wire with black oxide coating and in all excitement of wrapping it with new nylon braided insulation I 
totally forgot to sand it off.  Now I need to unwind it and redo iron wire.

Here there is a link to e-bay store where I got it:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1-8-BRAIDED-EXPANDABLE-SLEEVING-PET-loom-RED-per-ft_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742Q2em153Q2el1262QQcategoryZ38636QQihZ023QQitemZ360010138344QQtcZphoto

George