Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[jeanna]

Thank you Bill,

See, I am a scientist by nature. I question everything and when I am unsure I devise an experiment to satisfy my curiosity.

This is the impulse for yesterday's and today's experiments. I think I stated it a little at the time, and I don't need to repeat it now, probably. Some of my curiosity has to do with the mind of the inventor of this device we are dealing with - not in a historical aspect, but as a way to get into the invention and Really understand it.

As folks have been experimenting here they have made assumptions about what will be a good substitute for the materials and methods of the inventor. I have too, but I have made a strong effort NOT to do that. I have checked my assumptions many times to make sure I am not adding one that could make an unnecessary failure. For instance, silk has always been a very expensive and was a very hard to get fabric. The fact that it was used as Hans said, rather than the ubiquitous and inexpensive cotton says to me that it was for a good reason. I don't know what, but silk has properties in its chemistry and structure that make it quite different from cotton. It is for this reason that I made 3 coils using silk. There are other things too, but that is a good enough example because I made a joke of it earlier.

As I see it the small voltage produced by the galvanic action in the moist combinations of the materials of this coil is the source of the electricity for the electromagnet. I have been waiting to see what this make and break device will be. I have no ideas of my own. (unusual) but I have no experience with anything like that so I will wait to see what others do.

Putting 5 and 6 together was only one of about 25 configurations I tried today. Since it produced some kind of effect, I reported it. I am actually not confused about how that is not supposed to be shorted. NS says very clearly that 5,6 is a place for a device that would use the galvanic charge being produced by the coil. (I think of it as a load - but not the real load which is the AC load).

The question I had about the terminals being upside down came from maybe Bruce or Freezer's report on around page 95. I had never noticed it before but also I hadn't heard other comments about it so I asked.

Thank you, Bill, Your comments are always kind and often quite helpful. I appreciate them.

jeanna

[Localjoe]

@jeanna

I never try to be rude if it comes off that way just sure in my factual statements 

In the patent the load is said to be hooked to the secondary, the voltage and current produced on the primary could be used to power something simple but thats nothing new and not the good part of the invention... the highest results should be secured in the primary leads so when shorted intermittently they have ample punch to stimulate the secondary... Where the actual load is hooked..

EARTH BATTERY = SELF GENERATING INDUCTION COIL

BASESTATION TRANSMITTER = SELF SUSTAINING ELECTROMAGNET





@nightlife.. go read what i wrote again for the last time... i described 2 devices there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! shoot yourself before contradicting me again.

[sid10]

Anything that causes that many exclamation marks is the wrong place for me. Is there a way that I can be removed form or quit this group? Or do I just stay away?
Sid

[Localjoe]

@Sid

Night life has had prior incidents in this thread. His outbursts are usually so far in left field it leaves people lost. As well he knows better than to start an argument here.  I'm more than willing to repeat myself till im blue in the face for folks like Jeanna or bill or hans , freezer, folks that have been helping since the beginning and want to learn . Even yourself i have had nothing but good things to say! but nightlife has been warned before about cluttering this thread.  If he had taken the time to read the statement he might recant his comments.  If you feel you need to leave please feel free to do so. Sorry if you feel offended.  But where im from they tell folks to grow some hair and shake it off. Best i can tell ya
                                                                              Thanks again
                                                                                    Joe

[jeanna]

In the patent the load is said to be hooked to the secondary, the voltage and current produced on the primary could be used to power something simple but thats nothing new and not the good part of the invention... the highest results should be secured in the primary leads so when shorted intermittently they have ample punch to stimulate the secondary... Where the actual load is hooked..

EARTH BATTERY = SELF GENERATING INDUCTION COIL

BASESTATION TRANSMITTER = SELF SUSTAINING ELECTROMAGNET

OK,
In the patent  terminals 10 of the copper and iron wires 5&6 are left "disconnected so as to preserve the character of the wire as the electrodes of the voltaic couple". (lines 17-20)

So, that means the 10's are not to be connected, but the patent goes on to say, "but the other or remaining terminals of the wires [5&6] are brought in contact through the interposition of any electrical instrument or device with which they may be connected to cause the electrical currents generated in the coil-body 4 to flow through such instrument or device.

So, that means to me that the wire terminals 5,6 are connected to a load, because what else is an electrical instrument...that has electrical currents ...  flowing through the device?

"Electrical currents generated in the coil-body 4" means that coil-body 4 is the source of the power that flows through the [load] instrument or device.

And, yes, it is not the big output of this device. I assume that would be the AC generated in/by the secondary.

NS:

So that the battery may be used as a self generating electromagnet... to secure this result is simply required connecting the terminals 5,6 TOGETHER after wetting...

coil-body 4 drives the whole thing.

Now, I thought you saw the amps in the secondary when you briefly connected 5,6 together. Is that not right? Is this not why you are creating a pulser? to pulse the current at 5,6 in order to produce the payload at terminals 16?

That means that in a moist coilbody4 (or in my case yesterday some battery voltage entering at 10 and being the current in the coil-body 4) while 5,6 are connected should produce sizable, or useful amperage in AC form at the terminals 16 of the secondary. no?

In fact it did make a small deflection on the galvanometer. I don't think I have enough wraps on my secondary. I will re-do my secondary asap. to see this.

I have more tests to do around the changing polarity of the secondary. I saw it change back and forth, without any change of my input.  I need to clear the circuit of the elements that might confound the answer, and I need to think about it for a while.

I apologise again if I am wasting YOUR time with my experiments. I am not wasting MY time. I need to know the answers to the questions I am asking.

jeanna



(I love the way NS writes - so eloquent!)