Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[Pirate88179]

@ Joe:

Thank you.  I am having a hard time with this.  But I know life goes on.  I can't imagine what his son (19) is going through.  I too hope that Hans is ok also...I will e-mail him in a bit.  We were well over 110 pages last time I remember checking.  I also thought that the pages were longer but, as you said, no way over twice as long.  Possibly Stefan deleted many of the photos that were over the new limit?  I know we had quite a few on here.  I guess one of us could ask him.

I will be back to experimenting in a little while.  I still have some ideas that I want to check out.

Bill

[epiphany]

I went back to page 40 and counted the posts. There were 49, with 9 of them adverts. So 40 pages at 40 posts gives 1600, but the last post says 1599 (I think), so the post count maybe starts at zero?

Anyway, it looks like the post count per page is 40, ignoring the adverts.

I have purchased some 7/8 " zinc plated all thread with nuts and washers and a length (not sure yet) of 14 guage galvanized wire. A magnet is attracted to all of that. I also have some 14 guage romex, but don't think the length will match. I'd like to wind the whole length of steel wire, so I'm waiting on some bare copper right now. The all thread is 3' long.

I'm wondering if a couple of winds on this length would be equivalent to multiple winds on a shorter piece? If the thinking was to create a stronger field (whatever that is...), maybe more winds on a shorter piece? If it's a weak field and it's more about dissimilar metals, then the longer rod would suffice and be easier to wind.

Initially, I will wind the whole length. I know that NS used stove bolts in his patent, but maybe he used what was available at the time? He also built them to be serviceable, I think.

[epiphany]

I just wanted to make one more comment about the lightning/juice analogy. I'm trying to imagine what the mechanism would be that would draw the kind of potential that NS was able to produce.

I'm inclined to think NS was creating a local net potential (positive charge?) that created an imbalance that 'nature' was trying to correct. Perhaps he was using the incoming juice that would normally be correcting the imbalance and having that assist in producing an even greater imbalance? Like Joe mentioned that the coils need to be excited somehow.

Either that, or NS had a whole bunch of these little coils in some very specific locations ('hot spots'). You've probably already read that it takes awhile for the coils to become effective once they've been installed in their chosen location, like a week or so?

I understand that Tesla's magnifier had a huge undergound array. Ultimately, was his potential going to come from the earth (or through it, like it was some kind of cheesecloth)?

[Localjoe]

I just wanted to make one more comment about the lightning/juice analogy. I'm trying to imagine what the mechanism would be that would draw the kind of potential that NS was able to produce.

I'm inclined to think NS was creating a local net potential (positive charge?) that created an imbalance that 'nature' was trying to correct. Perhaps he was using the incoming juice that would normally be correcting the imbalance and having that assist in producing an even greater imbalance? Like Joe mentioned that the coils need to be excited somehow.

Either that, or NS had a whole bunch of these little coils in some very specific locations ('hot spots'). You've probably already read that it takes awhile for the coils to become effective once they've been installed in their chosen location, like a week or so?

I understand that Tesla's magnifier had a huge undergound array. Ultimately, was his potential going to come from the earth (or through it, like it was some kind of cheesecloth)?

Hey good thoughts mang. But there still speculation even tho i may share some. What we do know is this

-anythign kept in the earth in a non arid climate usually stay's a little damp.

- all that is needed to excite the primary is a little moisture and it starts producing voltage

-Curiously our inital metal tests of those with carbon zinc copper graphite and other assorted metals yeilded potentials higher than the galvanic table showed.. yet when just in water these electropotential differentces showed up according to the chart- Bill and i have said many times .. theres something else there we jsut dont know what yet.

-The real power comes from the secondary winding of lots of wire and its ac

-Ã,  Some form of make and break decvice /relay operates the primary coil makeing and breakign its connection

-The speed of that make and break is proportional to the juice in the secondary produced

My un substaitented theory is this-Ã,  The ground is enough to A - keep the primary coil wet and B- is a source of increceased potential for metals.Ã,  Ã,  In my head i see the primary relay/rotary gap winding up and when at speed creating a magnetic pumping action in the central bolt as well as the seconday coil .. This phrase curiously exists in the patent for some reason.. " A magnetic feild will be created inside and outside of the primary coil"Ã,  This senstances importance may yet be unknown.Ã,  This is a transformer of sorts and i think the bolts purpose is a magnetic sink.Ã,  What if this device redirects the normal EM FlowÃ,  on top of or through the earth and acts as a funnel of sorts.. The phrase Self Generating Induction coil seems to have a means to an end after looking at that fact.. Great work as always i just wanted to share my opinion as well.
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Hey good thoughts mang. But there still speculation even tho i may share some. What we do know is this

-anythign kept in the earth in a non arid climate usually stay's a little damp.

- all that is needed to excite the primary is a little moisture and it starts producing voltage

-Curiously our inital metal tests of those with carbon zinc copper graphite and other assorted metals yeilded potentials higher than the galvanic table showed.. yet when just in water these electropotential differentces showed up according to the chart- Bill and i have said many times .. theres something else there we jsut dont know what yet.

-The real power comes from the secondary winding of lots of wire and its ac

-  Some form of make and break decvice /relay operates the primary coil makeing and breakign its connection

-The speed of that make and break is proportional to the juice in the secondary produced

My un substaitented theory is this-  The ground is enough to A - keep the primary coil wet and B- is a source of increceased potential for metals.    In my head i see the primary relay/rotary gap winding up and when at speed creating a magnetic pumping action in the central bolt as well as the seconday coil .. This phrase curiously exists in the patent for some reason.. " A magnetic feild will be created inside and outside of the primary coil"  This senstances importance may yet be unknown.  This is a transformer of sorts and i think the bolts purpose is a magnetic sink.  What if this device redirects the normal EM Flow  on top of or through the earth and acts as a funnel of sorts.. The phrase Self Generating Induction coil seems to have a means to an end after looking at that fact.. Great work as always i just wanted to share my opinion as well.
                                                                                                                                         Joe

I  know I am not   part of this   group ......  just thought I would add my 2 cents worth....

I  was looking for a quote  that  I read before   about  Stubblfield  attaching   wires to tree  roots for another  thread ......

I found  a site that I find interesting.

http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/history/nathan-s.htm

It  is  a  pretty  long page .......but  in my  opinion  it   contains  alot of   information about   how  Stubblefield   gained   some of his knowledge.

almost half way  through the page I found this .

Mr. Stubblefield observed a strange "earth-charging phenomenon", reporting that the burial of an "earth energy cell" required time to build up charge. During the first phase of this charge building process, the characteristic weak output was observed. This was usually a volt at half an ampere, the general electrolytic output of buried metals.

From his linesman mentors, Stubblefield knew that placement of any grounded metal was the key toward deriving power. If properly placed, the energetic output of his cell would be phenomenal. Finding such a power point, he buried the cell. The process took a week or more to build strength. Once the cell was "saturated", however, it became (in his words) "a conduit of earth charge". This mysterious transition from weak battery to energy conduit required time.

Perhaps  you  are farther along than you  realised



gary