Triboelectric "static"

[SameCoin]

I posted this in another topic as a response but I feel it at least deserves a foot in the half baked area.

Hello all I'm a long time reader but as you can see this is my 1st post, I do not have a background in science, physics or EE. What I do have is a mind for creative problem solving and strong desire to find solutions which others might not consider. Perhaps I can contribute in that aspect perhaps not. That aside, I do a great deal of reading and have many many Ideas.

Pleasure to meet you all and I can only hope I can contribute in some way no matter how small.

Now to my reason for posting finally. I have done a considerable amount of reading on the triboelectric effect.
I may be wrong in what i am about to propose but from what i have read and the little i know on this subject, the two largest contributing factors involved in static generation are materials, and then surface area. The best materials I believe are Ebonite and Glass as your componet pieces. So easy enough materials to acquire. Surface area the next this people tend to be very short sighted or to traditional on. Using discs or Tubes. What i have come up with would increase the surface area by orders of magnitude and make the system itself far smaller.

I have other theories as well which may not be on correct but then that falls in an area that I simply do not know enough. I divulge this knowing full well that what I propose might very well be a legitimate system needing only bugs fixed and or optimization, but i do so knowing I myself don't have the means and hopping someone else can use it. We need free power and while Id love to be rich it simply is not that important to me.

Now then what I propose and it is quite simple. A central cylindrical chamber being the glass componet the ebonite componet being powder. Using a vortex vacuum chamber the dust is swirled around the chamber, the inner walls are line with glass fibers like hair. This approach would Increase the surface area my orders of magnitude. Now What I'm about to say may not be correct but I think It may be right someone will have to correct me if i am wrong. In a static effect enough charge must build up before it can bridge the gap, so a built charge with no where to go acts as a road block. With only one path out of a chamber or from a coil for example. The existing power has no where to go till its strong enough to lead the gap. What I am thinking is that in this proposed system, the faster the vortex pushes the particles the quicker a charge is going to build hence Impeding the build and movement of further charge. So if you "open" the flood gate so to speak by giving the charge far more leads which it can traverse, in this case numerous copper rods suspended in a radius around the chamber rather than 1 tap. Would you not it theory futher increase surface area by orders of magnitude? This second part is purely theoretical on my part.

I also propose this, this system grows orders again moving from hairs to near mono filaments and near monoatomic powders which are available if you have the money to burn. It Increases further, with the inclusion new vortex discoveries, moving away from tubes to cones. This last change wouldn't be order of magnitude but would increase efficiency, say 20%? Thats a guess I don't remember the numbers.

Well I hope these Ideas help someone.

If someone doesn't mind answering a question for me I would appreciate it.
What would be the implications/effects of using a room-temp Superconducting wire in a coil?

[mapsrg]

scientists use superconduction to accelerate particles,atoms, to smash them and detect subatomic particles,but this has needed expensive cooling systems.If you had room temp superconductors there use would be unlimited especially in electric motors/generators...........

[SameCoin]

I understand all of that, I guess i wasnt clear in my question. What would be the effect of having superconducting wire in a coil.

[armagdn03]

I believe I posted last time you presented this idea,

its a good idea, but doesnt work
the only surface area that counts is the surfaces that interact,
if you have a cylindar, the only surface area that can possibly be used is the total surface area of the smallest surface, all that powder has tons of surface are, but not all touches the cylindar at the same time.


only the sufraces that are in contact count!