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Overunity Machines Forum



Single Wire Tests

Started by duff, October 31, 2007, 03:42:00 AM

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jeanna

Quote from: BEP on January 24, 2008, 06:07:48 PM
@Jeanna

If the circuit was right then the polarity of one of your battery sets was wrong. It sounds like each battery was trying to eat the other's tail  :)

LEDs typically don't like voltages as high as 2.6. You'll have to look at the package they came in for their voltages. Usually you must add a resistor in series.
Thanks, BEP
This is from Rosphere's post the pic is called firstexperiment-bjpeg maybe on page 8 or 9 where the batteries are mirror to each other but the ends of each battery driven circuit is out on the ends of that straight wire. I think the heat in the batteries (very hot) might be coming from too quickly "recharging" the battery or maybe just like a shorted battery.- except the voltage didn't drain out.

I was avoiding using a resistor only because SM said that some kind of resistor screwed up the works, so I took my chances (If I hadn't JUST recharged them they would have been  been OK.)

This single wire deal is such an interesting thing.

jeanna

This is YOUR description of it:
Quote
Put a black from bat A along with a red from bat B together on one end and reverse on the other (with the loads connected).
The current from both bats is flowing the full length of the wire but opposite directions. If the wire explodes at 1.5 amps and each load is drawing 1 amp then why doesn't the wire explode? Better yet why does no current show at all in the middle?

I just did it and registered the voltages at those various points.
The wire didn't get as hot as the battery. I checked after my hand got burned. The wire wasn't hot (yet).


eldarion

OK, I hate to spoil everyone's fun, but can someone who has run one of these tests cut the single wire in the middle?  I suspect that it will make no difference in the load LED brightness or resistor amperage; there is another DC path that does not include the wire.

That being said, I still have no explanation for Bruce's odd effects with the pulsed single wire tests.  (Actually, I do have an idea, but still need to test it, as well as confirming Bruce's results in the first place)

Thanks!

Eldarion
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jeanna

Quote from: eldarion on January 24, 2008, 07:22:50 PM
OK, I hate to spoil everyone's fun, but can someone who has run one of these tests cut the single wire in the middle?  I suspect that it will make no difference in the load LED brightness or resistor amperage; there is another DC path that does not include the wire.

Thanks!

Eldarion
I probably blew another fuse. I get zero amps, but

the voltage on this circuit is:

+ to - 2.38vdc one way and
2.43vdc the other and
+ to + 0.01vdc and
- to - 0.00vdc

hmm

jeanna
now to find a fuse???

Bruce_TPU

Quote from: eldarion on January 24, 2008, 07:22:50 PM
OK, I hate to spoil everyone's fun, but can someone who has run one of these tests cut the single wire in the middle?  I suspect that it will make no difference in the load LED brightness or resistor amperage; there is another DC path that does not include the wire.

That being said, I still have no explanation for Bruce's odd effects with the pulsed single wire tests.  (Actually, I do have an idea, but still need to test it, as well as confirming Bruce's results in the first place)

Thanks!

Eldarion

Hi Eldarion,

If you could confirm Rosphere's experiment as well.  The question in my mind is this, "Does sending like signals, different power sources, disable the flux or make it stronger?"

"If those two identical signals/different sources are out of phase 90 degrees, what does this do with respect to the flux, etc.?  What about 120 degrees out of phase?" 

I am sure you will see something.

@ Marco
The suspense is getting to me.  So what did you see when you tested opposing signals/different sources in your coil?  I want to ask you, since no one else has.  Also thanks for again bringing this to the forefront. 

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

allcanadian

LOL :D
Cut the wire in the middle ---- it's a series connection between the two batteries
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