Hydrosonic Pump

[idnick]

Hi CompCyber

Read Reply #38 on: January 14, 2007, page 4 this thread.

pese could not have put it any plainer as to what the thermowave will do. Also I don't think there's anything to "re-engineer" with the thermowave. You might be lucky that they're only shipping to US because if you had a shipload of thermowaves' sent to Germany I don't think you could heat up a hamburger in Hamburg. 
Anyway If you get your hands on one and re-engineer it let us know how it worked out.

Regards Dave

[pese]

tks for the messages.
it give better ways to produce hydrocaloric,
that is more efficent , so it need not special
testequipment to obsere little power rsults.
tks
Pese

[idnick]

Yup.  You're right on, pese   

Dave

[allcanadian]

Hey Idnick
I found somthing you may find very interesting, I just finished a book called "The Energy Evolution" by callum coats, about Victor Schaubergers technologies. This is absolutely a must read, it's a bit cryptic at times but has a huge amount of info on his patents from original manuscripts.
Tell me if this sounds familiar?
Victor S used spinning water(vortex) to produce heat or cold at will in machines that were self-runners. This book confirmed my suspicions of what he was doing, so I'll give you the short version.
Just before Victor.S started making self-running machines he was Very intersted in Lord Kelvins water drop static charge generator and the fact that once charge was built up the drop would be repelled upward against gravity. As well a nozzle propelling water vapor through a (+)charged ring can produce over 15,000 volts (-)charge in the water vapor. Since (-) charges repell (-) charges the vapor can be repelled upwards against gravity, but he went further. If a rapidly spinning column of (-)charged water vapor spins in a (-)charged container then the vapor repells from the container thus there is no friction due to boundary layer interactions. The (+) charged vapor is also pushed to the center of the column by repulsion, so we have water vapor spinning rapidly with a seperation of charges and it just so happens that this is what is required to seperate H2O into Hydrogen and Oxygen. If the center column of oxygen rich water vapor later recombines with the outer hydrogen rich water vapor then heat is produced, if the hydrogen rich water vapor is siphoned off it rises rapidly recombined with air to produce a cooling effect(vacuum-implosion), the oxygen rich water vapor can burn producing heat, there are endless combinations. Victor S used the seperated hot and cold flows to produce rapidly moving air flows(hot expansion to cold vacuum) doubling the power density.
I am 100% sure Victor.S had this process nailed down to perfection, So how does it relate to your machine?
Your outer casing has a (+) charge from the atmoshere, and when the water hits a pocket in the rotor it cavitates(vaporizes), rapidly moving water/vapor past (+) outer casing creates a huge (-) charge on rotor, the attraction of oppositly charged water vapor moves the flow inward between the rotor and casing. Under the right conditions the movement could be centripital, that is (+)outer charge moves towards (-) inward charged vapor speeding up the rotor or flow or both. In any case if the charge seperation and pressure fuctuations seperate water vapor in the rotor pockets into H and O then outside the pocket they could recombine producing water and heat. Victor.S also said the most efficient machine would be use a reciprocal process, that is the seperation drives the processas well as the recombination. So if massive turbulence in the pocket(cavitation) and charge seperation produce a cooling effect in the pocket(implosion)water is sucked in from the front flow, when leaving the pocket the bubble collapses under pressure, the H and O recombine producing heat, the pressurized hot water moves rapidly towards the next cool pocket under a vacuum.
Of course this is all speculation but there are things to look for-

- the outer casing could short circuit to the rotor through your bearings, no charge seperation, use large gasket to seperate at least 1/2"
- limit the inlet flow to produce more cavitation or add charged air into the inlet with the water(google lord kelvin water drop generator)
- pocket geometry should maximize water/vapor velocity ie- swirl, cavitation
- use insulated probe in outlet to measure potential difference(Voltage) between outlet flow and rotor.
- build rediculously sensitive charge detector from Bill Beaty's web site and measure static charge in and around machine.

In any case good luck, and give this book a read if you get the chance

[idnick]

Thanks allcanadian

That is some fantastic info in your last post. I'll do alot more checking it out. The part about spinning water just came up on WaterFuel1978@yahoogroups.com where they are making massive amounts of gas in seconds not minutes. Ya otta check it out. Very interesting.

Dave