Overunity is impossible! (and why you shouldn't care)

[gaby de wilde]

Greetings Everyone,

Perhaps those of you who are "naysayers" (for lack of a better term) are in the wrong forum.  I'm new here but I believe that Stefan created this site with the intent to collaborate "like minds" and find a solution to our current energy problem and economic inequity.  Why are we wasting time here arguing about things we can't know until we actually seek them out? (e.g. building various energy devices)

If you don't feel that "over-unity" or "free energy" is possible, why are you here?  Your energy would probably be best spent somewhere else.  Just my $.02.  No offense intended.

Peace,
Will

mah, most people here are on a payroll to debunk free energy.

But if we rub it in every now and then they will pretend to do research which can always be exploited. So it's a win win situation. The debunkers get paid and we get to use their precious feedback. After placing it in it's context of course.

huhuhu

[Liberty]

@Liberty
YES!  Exactly!  It is possible to exceed electrical unity.  But just like you said, it would be due to something else pitching in energy, like magnets.  That energy isn't free of course, it's just been stored in the magnet as potential energy. 

Ultimately everything has a fuel source, which will eventually be used up.  In the case of apparent OU devices, it just isn't clear yet what that source is.

@Esotericman

I would agree that everything has a fuel source, however I believe that a magnet does not store energy.  There are atomic particles that exhibit a magnetic force within the material.  The magnetizing process only aligns the particles that are then "pinned" in place by the material of the magnet and does not store energy within the magnet.  It appears to me that the atomic magnetic particles in a permanent magnet have the ability to maintain their magnetic output without man adding energy to them continually.  When a magnet becomes 'demagnetized', it has lost it's particle alignment (magnetic particles are not able to hold particle alignment within the magnet) rather than being depleted like a battery charged up with energy.  That is why I have come to the conclusion that a magnet motor is in essence, a form of an atomic powered motor.

Think about this:  When you magnetize a magnet, is the same pole formed that was applied to the magnet material?  I think you will find that the opposite pole is formed to conform to the flux path applied.  In otherwords, magnetic alignment occurred, not energy storage.

[gaby de wilde]

I will have it my way.

I lift an object, now gravitational energy builds up.

You can by no means point out the location of this energy since it doesn't have any physical qualities.

You already make me laugh when you talk about this energy deity of yours? the big E !! ehm? ROFL?? It really doesn't exist in this dimension in the sense of the actually being of anything now does it?  A religion? mkay?? Shall we start by looking at it as a religion without love? It has to be the worse one out there?

But if you want to argue E is stored some place else as~in "it really exists look here it is!" Then be my guest, but until you can show me a physical quality, until that day it just doesn't exist. It doesn't exist and it doesn't exist.

By the normal rule set people are free to practice religion as much as they desire to. But within science you are not entirely free to talk about unproven assumptions as if facts. In a religion it's perfectly cool to feel the god presence.  In science it is NOT in medical science you will end up in prison.

You are to make things evident or thar shall not claim those are the facts. How many times do you want to hear it?

Lets say we have 1 hole.

Now we can only stuff ONE marble in there.

Non of the other marbles have any gravitational potential because the hole is now full.

You can talk rubbish all day. At the end of the day you still cant drop the second marble in the hole because it's full.

End of story I would think? but no? Stubborn we claim the hole can hold unlimited marbles as if total lunatics? Yes?

Lets run though this complicated explanation again.

When I take the ONE marble out of the hole they miraculously ALL HAVE POTENTIAL AGAIN. Hurray, gaby kills physics. Not even Newton survived this time. ha-ha

The Dutch guy put his finger in the Dyk and now the potential flood is gone.

ROFL, dude! The flood is potentially not going to happen at all.

It'zzz much like the potential just reversed there? (inside joke)

You cant win. I'm much to smart for all of you. ghehehehe But you are free to use up your energy if that's the way you feel about it. You know the ultimate thing to do in this religion is collective suicide. Things seem we are heading this way? no?

Energy in it self is preposterous but the conversation of it is all the more hilarious.

Now peeps are going to tell me this dety is everywhere and it's always preserved?

Dude?? OME ?? ? The stuff doesn't exist. What are you attributing silly properties to it. I cant stop laughing! iiiiiieeeewww   Don't make me read your previous posts and guess what company you debunkers work for. You already know I will get it right. haha!! Being minion doesn't really qualify as work now does it? Cant you get a real job? This one is just ridiculous? no?

First I destroy the game of physics now the debunkers game. I'm having such fun.

Lets answer hans question also:

overunity is the name of the website. 

Any more questions?

But honestly, I ask normal questions and I never found an answer to any of them. Why is there no~one on the Internet who can reasonably explain CoE? This is not just like a religion but it is one you understand?

There is nothing wrong with religion a lot of religions use to do science. It's where all our science comes from. Or should we say, was filtered by?

[Esotericman]

Think about this:  When you magnetize a magnet, is the same pole formed that was applied to the magnet material?  I think you will find that the opposite pole is formed to conform to the flux path applied.  In otherwords, magnetic alignment occurred, not energy storage.

Yes, you are right that magnetic alignment is occurring, and yes this IS different from storing electrical energy (building up electrons).  But this alignment allows the magnet to do work.  Similarly, when work is done on the magnet, it loses its alignment.  This has always proven true in every PMM.  So a magnet has the capacity to do work, and eventually loses this capacity- I call that energy storage, in the same way that electrons in atomic orbit are.

But whether it lasts forever is meaningless really- if it lasts 1000 years... that's good enough!


@Gaby...  I'm really not sure what you're talking about.  I'm not sure anyone really does.  But if you are insinuating that I am somehow "on the payroll" to debunk renewable energy, you are quite mistaken.  The opposite is true in fact, which is why I spend every spare moment running calculations, making drawings, and debating the concept: cheap-as-free energy will save the world, and will save my life.  My purpose in being here is to try and make free energy arguments a little less rediculous- that is, less likely to be utterly ridiculed by the scientific community at large... 

How exactly are you helping again?

[NerzhDishual]

Hi OU_Freaks and Builders!

From time to time, I see guys paying a visit to this very web site and solemnly pontificate us that we should more carefully consider The Holly & Eternal Laws of Physics, that there is no such thing like "Over Unity" and why it befits not worrying about it.

I do not intend to nitpick about semantic. Is it "Over Unity" or "COP >1" Does the environment (Aether for example) participate? IMHO, our Dear Dr Einstein with his "heap of hogwash" (Gaby) occluded the Aether...

I have checked it out: the domain name overunityisimpossible.com is free!
So...

Best