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Overunity Machines Forum



help to install an HHO device into a VW Golf 3

Started by hartiberlin, November 09, 2007, 04:56:31 AM

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ramset

H20 thanx for the reply  I am trying to keep costs to a minimum[like the smack booster] and safety to a maximum  like your design no electrolyte just rain water   thanx again Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

passion1

Quote from: h20power on March 05, 2008, 05:55:38 PM
Ramset,

That cell disign was ment for use with a vacuum, but it's purpose is just to save on gas. Things that you don't see in my video are a water flow pump and a water mister. The cell is quite simple other than having two chambers in one. One chamber is for the electrolysis and the other for the water level and water flow pump. I don't like bubblers to me they are a waste of time, Stanley Meyer didn't use one nor does Dr. Daniel Dingel.
h20power

Thank you for the information!
What I do not understand is why your design can run the hydrogen straight into the engine
without any explosion while, almost without exception, everybody else says a bubbler
is a must?
I can see your design works, but I want to understand why the bubbler is not necessary.
What are you doing differently than other?
How do we guarantee our safety without the bubbler? Thanks again for your explanations.

h20power

Hi passion1 ,
As far as I know I am the only one that has connected too the main vacuum line on the car other than the Joe Cell guys and I don't think that I have seen them having any blow backs either, but I keep it safe by not letting the tempertures in the intake system reach 500 degrees, the flash point of hydrogen, with the addtion of the water mister. When reading the Arizona Study, the one thing they where very clear on is cooling all hot spots in the intake system. My solution to this problem was the use of water, by way of introducing a water mist into the intake system. The water mist absorbs the heat thus keeping it from flashing the hydrogen. It has shown to work very well so far. Dingle uses some sort of aluminium tank with rubber in it and Meyer a quenching circuit. But when I read the college study that was my solution too the problem. Water mist will stay at 100 degrees until it has truned into steam, but the water flow is continue'es so that makes it very unlikely the intake system will get much over 100 degrees.

As you can see I just solved the problem a different way, but I did prepair for the worst in that the containor is built to withstand a flash back if it happens, even the hose lines can take the pressure. But if it does blow back it first has too over come the vacuum that is in the containor, for my car it's 12-30 mm Hg. I race around with my car a lot and like I said I have never had a blow back yet. So now you have at least three different ways that others have done it without the use of a bubbler.
I took the science aproach in keeping the temps down well below that of hydrogens flash point. Water is a great heat absorber so I used it to solve the problem I read about in the college study.

passion1


msghaleb

Hello H2

Just 1 more question to understand more about the gas flow, now if the car is on but like in a traffic Jam or something and generating hydrogen with the same rate as like running on the highway, where then the extra generated hydrogen goes after words which was generated during the traffic?

Is it this the same thing that something like the MAP Sensor Enhancer would do?

Thank you.