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Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.

Started by EMdevices, November 12, 2007, 11:49:58 PM

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Bruce_TPU

#140
November 22, 2007, 12:15:40 PM
@ All,

Happy holidays!

I want to clarify what I am looking for through this experiment, aside from the good time it affords.  I am looking for interaction of the toroid to increase the run time.  We can add any number of caps to increase the run time, but that is no different from running with a battery. The run time for scorpio is great, but a result of a super capacitor, not the coil.  So please remember, we need coil(s) interaction and/or changes in types of wire to make a difference in run time.  Also the use of magnet(s) to affect operation time.

The fact that the Hz is close to 7.3 is also of prime interest to those of us working on the SM tpu.

@ Sanmanki
I think that you are onto something by switching the wire from copper to iron.  If you could post a link to where you bought your iron wire, that would be great.  You double your time by changing wire.  In my mind this is huge.  I would also suggest an attempt be made using Nickel wire.  Some of us believe SM's first TPU had either iron and copper or iron and aluminum.  There were for sure two metals involved, and this from SM.

Cheers,
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

sanmankl

#141
November 22, 2007, 01:00:40 PM
Quote from: btentzer on November 22, 2007, 12:15:40 PM
Sanmankl i think that you are onto something by switching the wire from copper to iron.  If you could post a link to where you bought your iron wire, that would be great.  You double your time by changing wire.  In my mind this is huge.  I would also suggest an attempt be made using Nickel wire.  Some of us believe SM's first TPU had either iron and copper or iron and aluminum.  There were for sure two metals involved, and this from SM.

Hi Bruce,

What got me to change my wire from copper to something else is because I believe that the winding/turn is too few to generate sufficient magnetic field. Also, copper is non-ferrous metal and does not have magnetic properties. I thought that if I change the wire to a magnetic one, the field might be stronger and that my recapture wire can "capture" it? Also, resistance is higher (reducing the current and voltage?), sort of an inline choke?

Sorry. No link from where I buy my wires for I got it at a small electronics store. It's sold everywhere (from where I'm located) If you want, I can post a picture of the wires. I'm going over to the shop to see if I can get the wire in a spool? (I got mine years ago in loose pack, no spool) and if so, I'll take a picture of the spool, hopefully with the label on it. I believe my trigger wire is made from aluminium for when I scratch it, it's still shiny all the way in.

I'm going to rewind the coil with 30 turns of aluminium wire and 15 turns of iron to see if there's a difference?

As for nickel wire, that's a good suggestion. It's on my shopping list.

By the way, I'd tried using a 2N7000 FET. It does blink but the run time is pathetic. Maybe it takes too much voltage to saturate/switch it? I'm limiting myself to testing this TPU under 3V. Going beyond that tends to kill my LEDs. (I'm already short of it after burning sooo many.... >:()

Cheers, sanmankl

P.S. The iron wire is the same type that you get when you buy a breadboard except that it's in cut length. Hope this helps.

Bruce_TPU

#142
November 22, 2007, 01:15:07 PM
@ sanmanki

Yes, please post a picture of your iron wire.  Thank you.

Cheers,
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Bruce_TPU

#143
November 22, 2007, 01:46:57 PM
Hello All,

My first experiment of the day.  I wound my exact duplicate coil on my new ferrite.  I wired it into parallel, next to the existing coil, still using the same circuit, double diode in parallel and double transistor in parallel.  Run time was 20 minutes 28 seconds.  No help there.

My next experiment will be two separate circuits, different batteries to kick start each, and feeding back into each other.  I need some ideas where to tap into the two, and how to wire the two coils together.  A quick drawing would be helpful.  Thank you.

Cheers,
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

sanmankl

#144
November 22, 2007, 01:48:19 PM
Hi Bruce,

Here you go.

It's a high res photo. You can zoom in if you want. The lower wire is the "aluminium" type. The middle one, below the roll is the iron type.

Cheers, sanmankl

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