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Farnsworth Fusor and Multipactor

Started by Grumpy, November 19, 2007, 10:46:22 PM

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Grumpy

Eric Dollard mentions the multipactor "tube" in some of his work and I ran across this article:

http://www.farnovision.com/chronicles/fusion/vassilatos.html

"poissors" are interesting point-plasma entities that can be manipulated without magnetic confinement - very interesting

http://farnovision.com/chronicles/fusion/index.html

http://www.borderlands.com/archives/arch/multipact.htm  - over 100% efficiency?

ns switching speeds - can't get that at the local hardware store:
http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login.jsp?url=/iel5/10933/4066654/04066661.pdf&isnumber=4066654&prod=JNL&arnumber=4066661&arSt=442&ared=450&arAuthor=Forrer%2C+M.P.%3B+Milazzo%2C+C.

Quote"At one point in his television work, Farnsworth had seen a strange and unexplained blue glow in one of his Multipactor tubes, and he had wondered ever since if it was a spontanious emission of energy.  He had come to believe that there must be a totally safe way to harness the atom for peacetime purposes, and around the time he had refused to join the Manhatten Project, he had begun to devote more and more time to thinking about nuclear fusion."

More on the "Blue glow":
http://books.google.com/books?pg=PA142&dq=farnsworth+multipactor&ei=NFZCR9uMLJ_a7ALb09T1Bg&sig=xr0UYHKpUp5bPe0_wcdXemvw-Ug&id=7aM80L9WUGsC&as_brr=3&output=html

Wow.  See this comment from Eric Dollard back in 1997: (about half-way down the page - highlighted words)
http://www.coastalpost.com/97/3/20.htm
...sounds like Eric had a "visit" from some people who didn't appreciate his work.

It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

Grumpy

This is the text that Dollard posted in the link mentioned above:

Alternative Energy Attempts Snuffed

As a scientist and engineer, I find Mr. Scanlon's essay on fusion uninformed. Not yet forgotten is the fact that fusion-related devices existed here in Bolinas.

In the 1930s, a man by the name of Philo Taylor Farnsworth II was creating radio and tv tubes far more advanced than the usual tubes in use then or now. The theories of Dr. Einstein found practical form in these tubes, one in particular, the multipactor tube, showed signs of producing electric energy directly from the primordial medium with no fuel or mechanical force. The study of these phenomena by Farnsworth led him to the construction of a successful fusion tube. He called this the fusor. I had the good fortune of witnessing the existence of these devices and the notebooks relating to them.

In conjunction with the investor's son Philo III and a young lab assistance, I set out to recreate important aspects of these fusion devices with equipment donated by the RCA Bolinas station at 451 Mesa Road (not to be confused with Commonweal). A lab was set up in the old Marconi building. The process of stellar energy creation was produced successfully at the RCA site. No nuclear waste or violent instability problems exist with this type of phenomenon.

At the point at which Farnsworth became successful in his work, his lab was closed. Several years after he died, his work was forgotten. Our lab was closed and all important devices vanished. The important old RCA equipment was destroyed by hired vandals. Later on, important historical tubes began to disappear from Philo's home at the end of Elm Road. Philo died a short time later, his ashes dropped upon the RCA station. Presently, the last vestige of RCA is being snuffed.

So ends the history of workable fusion. Such discoveries are a threat to a thermodynamic culture. Both the part that operates it, and the part that wants to save us from it are very wealthy from its existence. No alternative is to be tolerated, particularly in Bolinas.

E.P. DOLLARD

BREAK: KDGOSX

Bolinas

-------------------------

Another post using BREAK: KDGOSX

Free Radio Persecuted

One can only laugh at the idea of a disaster preparedness program for the town of Bolinas. Not only are our so-called local officials too wrapped up in political action committees (PACs) and scam operations so as to be dysfunctional, but the rapidly emerging police state regards such as a survivalist threat.

Not so long ago, less than qualified individuals deep in PAC-scam made an attempt at creating a disaster radio system. As with their "Radio Free Bolinas." The idea sounded great, but was doomed to fail due to the nature of those involved. I, being a licensed professional radio engineer, set off with my partner to create a functional system. This system could not only maintain in operation under the most adverse conditions, but could also be adapted to detect violent storms and large earthquakes days in advance of their physical occurrence.

Construction of the system began utilizing military field radios hidden within a working botanical garden, so as to not spoil the so-called view. Materials were donated by the nearby RCA (now MCI) station to help facilitate completion of this project. About this time the PAC-scam got the notion that their phone calls were under our scrutiny. The rumor was advanced further by the children's newspaper, "Bolinas Hearsay News." Not only was the radio system a threat to the criminal operatives in Bolinas, but also a threat to the growing cell phone empire at the fire department.

At first vandals were sent in the night to cut wires. Next the community development agency (CDA) set upon the property owner. "We don't like your radios," barked Miz Nannen, CDA. Abatement proceedings were instituted. Park ranger man joined in and falsified complaints were issued. Unmarked jeep Cherokees with no license plates staged at the firehouse began staking out our lot. We now were at war.

Needless to say, the county SWAT team destroyed our federal licensed (KDGOSX) disaster station, on the eve of the Pearl Harbor anniversary. All gone now folks, so just dial 911. But wait for the dial tone.

BREAK: KDGOSX

Bolinas


It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

Mr.Entropy

Farnsworth Fusors do indeed produce fusion, but not enough to pay back the power you put into them.  Wikipedia has as nice page about them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor


EarthTech actually built one -- their only successful excess energy experiment (Pout/Pin = 1.0000000001):

http://www.earthtech.org/experiments/fusor/bigsys3.html


This method of fusion has been advanced greatly in recent years by (sadly and recently deceased) Dr. Robert Bussard, who is most famous as the inventor of the Bussard Ramjet.  He gave a really good talk about his work to Google when he was looking for more funding:

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=1996321846673788606&q=fusor


His work continues at EMC2Fusion.org, funded by a non-profit organization:

http://emc2fusion.org/


Cheers,

Mr. Entropy

wings

Quote from: Grumpy on November 19, 2007, 10:46:22 PM
Eric Dollard mentions the multipactor "tube" in some of his work and I ran across this article:

http://www.farnovision.com/chronicles/fusion/vassilatos.html

"poissors" are interesting point-plasma entities that can be manipulated without magnetic confinement - very interesting

http://farnovision.com/chronicles/fusion/index.html

http://www.borderlands.com/archives/arch/multipact.htm  - over 100% efficiency?

ns switching speeds - can't get that at the local hardware store:
http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login.jsp?url=/iel5/10933/4066654/04066661.pdf&isnumber=4066654&prod=JNL&arnumber=4066661&arSt=442&ared=450&arAuthor=Forrer%2C+M.P.%3B+Milazzo%2C+C.


More on the "Blue glow":
http://books.google.com/books?pg=PA142&dq=farnsworth+multipactor&ei=NFZCR9uMLJ_a7ALb09T1Bg&sig=xr0UYHKpUp5bPe0_wcdXemvw-Ug&id=7aM80L9WUGsC&as_brr=3&output=html

Wow.  See this comment from Eric Dollard back in 1997: (about half-way down the page - highlighted words)
http://www.coastalpost.com/97/3/20.htm
...sounds like Eric had a "visit" from some people who didn't appreciate his work.

patent to recovery energy from multipactor effect:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=lkACAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&source=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q=&f=false

mscoffman

It's important to remember that fusion is nuclear hot fusion. It produces
both relativistic neutrons which damage it's confinement and creates
radioactivity in shielding material and always produces dangerous gamma
radiation EMF that requires shielding, but does not do neutron synthesis in
it's shielding.

Certain types of fusion like boron fusion require a temperature density
confinement time of 100 times of that of deuterium fusor energy but
gets by without producing neutrons, though it still produces gamma
radiation.

Of course all this is still better than heavy metal fission reactors where
tons of metal are left highly contaminated by neutron synthesised nuclear
waste. But I think you can see that these fusor tubes, which have been
built by a number of people, are a *long* way from the design of an
actual fusion power producing reactor. All fusion reactions, that I know
of, are not chain reactions therefore cannot run away or go out of control.

This is completely opposed to CF cold fusion, which depending on the
choice of target materials emits only heat.

:S:MarkSCoffman