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Open letter from James Randi to Steorn

Started by shruggedatlas, November 20, 2007, 11:41:44 AM

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neptune

@ Omnibus . OK I understand now . This is not an ideal situation , but neither Randi nor anyone else can be an expert on all branches of science . Nevertheless , You might agree that if an overunity device won the James Randi prize , the publicity would be good for free energy .

exnihiloest

Quote from: neptune on December 26, 2010, 03:20:15 PM
I fail to understand why so many people want to discredit James Randi . In my opinion his letter speaks for itself .He is a man of integrity and honesty who does not suffer fools gladly . I have spent much time studying this man .As he says , show me a working machine and I will give you the money .How can you not understand that ?

Hi Neptune,

I agree with you.
The fundamentalists of free energy and their followers (yes there are numerous for whom FE is a religion, not a research field in science) know that they have not yet found anything, or want to believe in any absurd OU claims. Instead of trying to dispel their ignorance, they prefer to denigrate and fight the skeptics who denounce their incompetence. Instead of proving their assertions, they deny the objections. They react in the same manner as muslims against Muhammad cartoons, question of shaken faith.

They are wrong. They can't convince the skeptics because they have nothing.
When the free energy will be a reality, skeptics will be convinced.


Omnibus

Quote from: neptune on December 27, 2010, 05:37:24 AM
@ Omnibus . OK I understand now . This is not an ideal situation , but neither Randi nor anyone else can be an expert on all branches of science . Nevertheless , You might agree that if an overunity device won the James Randi prize , the publicity would be good for free energy .

I don't agree. James Randi is incompetent in any branch of science so he should stay away from involving himself or paying others in assessing the merits of scientific claims (so should other incompetent people such as the one who answered you above). Involvement of incompetent people in deciding whether or not a device is OU is bad for the free energy.

neptune

@ Omnibus . I suppose it depends how you define science . Randi is , if nothing else a very competent conjuror , and that has helped him detect fraud in the past . I hope that if we can agree on nothing else , we can graciously agree to differ . The bottom line for me is that if a guy gives me a million dollars , I am not too worried about his qualifications .

Omnibus

Quote from: neptune on December 27, 2010, 10:53:48 AM
@ Omnibus . I suppose it depends how you define science . Randi is , if nothing else a very competent conjuror , and that has helped him detect fraud in the past . I hope that if we can agree on nothing else , we can graciously agree to differ . The bottom line for me is that if a guy gives me a million dollars , I am not too worried about his qualifications .

On the contrary, it's a tragedy that some uneducated woo woo person can have the million dollars to control the opinion about what is and what isn't in science.