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Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.

Started by dfro, November 26, 2007, 07:43:29 PM

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Bruce_TPU

Quote from: btentzer on January 01, 2008, 10:35:40 AM
Quote from: Grumpy on December 31, 2007, 11:30:29 PM
What about the statement by SM that the frequencies are "directly related to the circumference of the collector"?

and the comments about "exciting" the collector...

Ring resonator

What about the width of the ring (not diameter)?

Ring resonator tuned to reject even harmonics

A ring resonator an be a hollow toroid, it can be a solid conductor, it can be open with a gap, it can be a closed ring, it can be made of several sections that approximate a circle.

So, both the control windings and the collector could be "ring resonators" tuned to the same frequency - like two tuning forks.


EDIT: you can also create rotating fields in ring resonators.




I read that tubes only put out natural odd harmonics, and solid state, even. 

Tube oscillators anyone?

That is what I believe SM meant when he said to just build a tube amp, much quicker all around.  I do indeed think that we are looking for odd harmonics.

SM also said it would take 100 years for someone to find the correct frequencies.  Let's hope not!

New Years Cheers,



B ruce

Actually, I need to correct the above statement of mine.  It is the exact opposite.

"Technical observers report that when a tube amplifier is operated near its power limits that the distortion produced is the addition of even harmonics (even multiples of the fundamental freqency), while transistor amplifiers produce a distortion consisting of odd harmonics."

Sorry about dislexic moment!  LOL
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Newton007

I was thinking about the exploding TV set. Back in the 1960s during 8 through 12 th grade I had my own TV repair shop. Yeah, I was the geek with the glasses and the pocket protector. Still am I guess. Anyway I would work on those old black and white sets all the time.

Usually it was just a bad tube or high voltage fuse. If that did not work then pull the chassis lay it over on it's side get out the VTVM and scope, cheater cord. Back then you used a schematic, called Sam's Photo fax. All you old time TV guys already know about Sam's. They were only about $2 and they had all the information about the TV, usually just a few pages.
Well when the first color TVs came out (expensive!) the Sam's were about $15-25 because they were like a book. Just taking the back off one of these could be something, the chassis were huge, with a pile of tubes and the yoke on the round picture tube was a huge coil of wires.
 
These first color TVs spent more time in the shop than in the home. Plus you had to have special equipment to work on them. Oddly enough the owners would pay and pay to keep them running even if the stupid thing had to be de gauss all the time. I was told they had to be de gauss because of the Earths magnetic fields. 
Now that is something to think about.

Most of these sets did not make it out of the show room before they fizzled out. The pictures were poor, but it was "color" and that is what counted. Now you could brag to your friends about having the first one even if you had a green hair and blue skin picture to show to your friends.

Any way back to the exploding (imploding) color TV. With all those coils on just the yoke alone may have just for a split second, interacted with the Earths magnetic field creating enough magnetic force to do, well any thing.

I don't know, but many strange things have happened before and since that can't be explained. Some where in England I think there is a neighborhood where the wiring in the houses burn up even with the power disconnected. Why? All the experts don't know. So who knows?

Today if the TV craps out, in the dumpster, off to Wally World for a new one. 

eldarion

Just a quick note...this picture is very interesting.

Found it here while looking for info on the rotating standing wave gizmo: http://ite.gmu.edu/~omega/research.html

For what it's worth, I do think there has to be some large power buildup (and rotation of the built-up power) occurring somehow, and rotating standing waves would fit the bill perfectly.  EM waves do have a slight amount of mass to them (this is a scientific fact--remember the old microwave propulsion system?  It was too weak to be of much use, but it proved this beyond a shadow of a doubt)

Eldarion
"The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheaply, we esteem too lightly; it is dearness only that gives everything its value."
-- Thomas Paine

Newton007

Ok well I admit I am all new to this TPU thing, but I just went to another web site where a group of inventors claim that they have a working TPU. But looking at the shaking video (I am starting to think this shaking video thing implies success) and the schematic they are using, I don't get it.
There are power supply's, square wave generators, scopes, meters, a bunch of wires, coils and of course the ever present  glowing light bulb all connected together on a work bench.

Don't get me wrong, I have to admire their drive and enthusiasm, but, I hope that they have taken the time to study the original information on the TPU. There was not (as far as I could tell) any power supply of any kind used in the original unit.

Like I say, it is going to take me a while to adjust.


zapnic

Quote from: Newton007 on January 02, 2008, 11:00:37 PM
I was thinking about the exploding TV set. Back in the 1960s during 8 through 12 th grade I had my own TV repair shop. Yeah, I was the geek with the glasses and the pocket protector. Still am I guess. Anyway I would work on those old black and white sets all the time.

Usually it was just a bad tube or high voltage fuse. If that did not work then pull the chassis lay it over on it's side get out the VTVM and scope, cheater cord. Back then you used a schematic, called Sam's Photo fax. All you old time TV guys already know about Sam's. They were only about $2 and they had all the information about the TV, usually just a few pages.
Well when the first color TVs came out (expensive!) the Sam's were about $15-25 because they were like a book. Just taking the back off one of these could be something, the chassis were huge, with a pile of tubes and the yoke on the round picture tube was a huge coil of wires.
 
These first color TVs spent more time in the shop than in the home. Plus you had to have special equipment to work on them. Oddly enough the owners would pay and pay to keep them running even if the stupid thing had to be de gauss all the time. I was told they had to be de gauss because of the Earths magnetic fields. 
Now that is something to think about.

Most of these sets did not make it out of the show room before they fizzled out. The pictures were poor, but it was "color" and that is what counted. Now you could brag to your friends about having the first one even if you had a green hair and blue skin picture to show to your friends.

Any way back to the exploding (imploding) color TV. With all those coils on just the yoke alone may have just for a split second, interacted with the Earths magnetic field creating enough magnetic force to do, well any thing.

I don't know, but many strange things have happened before and since that can't be explained. Some where in England I think there is a neighborhood where the wiring in the houses burn up even with the power disconnected. Why? All the experts don't know. So who knows?

Today if the TV craps out, in the dumpster, off to Wally World for a new one. 

mmmh
good post