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EUREKA!!! FINALLY!

Started by Qwert, November 29, 2007, 01:58:08 AM

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MeggerMan

@Qwert
QuoteAfter over 100 years of attempts history (the oldest known to me is US patent # 190206 of W. W. Gary from the year of 1877 "Electro Magnetic Motor"), including recent years' international research attempts using inernet, there still is not known even ONE proven working overunity example (Mathernitha Testatika is covered from the world). To me, the idea is a utopia. Eureka!!! Finally I can say this openly.

I think Paul Bauman wants people to join their Swiss commune and maybe then they will be able to see the "secret or secrets" - or is it a hoax?
So are you saying this motor/generator is running OU then?
If so can you show me where on the page this says that.
66% efficient means you still need get another 35% out of the device to get OU.
"Eureka" is reserved for declaring OU devices only.

Regards
Rob


Qwert

Quote from: MeggerMan on November 29, 2007, 11:19:09 AM
@Qwert

I think Paul Bauman wants people to join their Swiss commune and maybe then they will be able to see the "secret or secrets" - or is it a hoax?
So are you saying this motor/generator is running OU then?
If so can you show me where on the page this says that.
66% efficient means you still need get another 35% out of the device to get OU.
"Eureka" is reserved for declaring OU devices only.

Regards
Rob

eureka definition - Dictionary - MSN Encarta http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/DictionaryResults.aspx?refid=1861609400

[Greek heurÃ,,“ka "I have found (it)" < heuriskein "to find," supposedly exclaimed by Archimedes when he discovered the principle of water displacement]
Definition: expressing triumph: used to express delight on finding, discovering, or solving something, or on finally succeeding in doing something.

So, I discovered the overunity idea a utopia.

Koen1

Yes, I gathered that was what you meant.
But usually the term "Eureka" is meant in the sense of "I have found what I was looking for!" or "I have found the solution!"
and not in the sense of "I have found it to be untrue!" or "I have found falsification of something!".

Therfor, when you go on a "free energy"/"over unity" website and post "Eureka! Finally!", 99.9% of all people who read it will interpret it as
"I have finally found the secret to free energy!"
and certainly NOT as
"Yippee I have finally determined to my own satisfaction that free energy is impossible!".

A simple matter of cognitive dissonace caused by your misuse of the term.

crazyman

Quote from: Koen1 on November 30, 2007, 06:27:43 AM
A simple matter of cognitive dissonace caused by your misuse of the term.

How about, ? you?re an Antagonist koenhead.?.........
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Koen1

Quote from: crazyman on November 30, 2007, 07:38:19 AM
Quote from: Koen1 on November 30, 2007, 06:27:43 AM
A simple matter of cognitive dissonace caused by your misuse of the term.

How about, ? you?re an Antagonist koenhead.?.........
Zzzzzzz Zzzzzzzz Zzzzzzzz

lol :)
how about "so are you apparently", mr sleepyhead? ;)

Besides, I only antagonise when there is actually something to react negatively to.
I also give credit when credit is due. Unfortunately, presenting an existing electrical generator as "proof" that OU is impossible and then shouting "eureka" because you think that self-proclaimed "proof" is somehow an accomplishment, does not deserve credit...
How exactly is pointing out flaws antagonising? I would consider it to be a form of constructive criticism, as it can serve to avoid such flaws or mistakes in the future.
Or do you consider me to be an antagonist because I do not get carried away with wild ideas and retain a logically critical stance?
Many people seem to have trouble making the distinction between not immediately going crazy over new OU claims while keeping a critical view, and being an actual opponent of OU/FE. The fact that I do not jump on the bandwagon immediately but prefer to look at it critically to avoid having the wheel drop off the wagon during the ride, does not mean I don't want a wagon to ride. It just means I want to make sure we actually have a wagon and not something that looks like it and is mistaken for a wagon by the overenthousiastic believers. That is fundamentally different from denying the possibility of the wagons existance. Pardon the wagon analogy.