Bring Electicity from H2O

[h2o2go]

Stefan
You have me intriqued with your suggestion of a 30:1 mixture.? As anyone who has tried to develop on demand h2 knows, the problem is producing enough gas. 30:1 would mean less gas.? All the research data I can find indicates that 24:1 (by weight) is the minimum concentration for combustion, but challenging paradigms is what we do, right?? 24:1 by weight is a lot of H2.? I am wondering if using H2+O2 lightens the O2 side of the ratio, allowing less H2.? That is something that has gnawed at me for a while - what would happen if I got the A/F ratio right??? I would appreciate any thoughts you would share, defendable or not.
As I told Ron (H2O Motor) I have abandoned using H2+O2 because of difficulty in managing combustion, but with the correct ratio ??
THANX
Dave

[rlm555339]

Gentlemen,

Let me throw this in the mix as well. 
Water is H20  (hydrogen, oxygen)
Acetone is CH3COCH3  (carbon, hydrogen, carbonyl)

Acetone is miscible with water.  If one put a small percentage of acetone in the water, would it also break down into it's individual elements like water?  Would this throw some carbon into the mix?  Would this provide more of a hydrocarbon-like explosion?  Would the added elements make the mixture more or less stable in chamber?

I know......I'm reaching with this but I'm looking for some way to improve the power.

Ronald

[hartiberlin]

There was a guy on the watercar group about a year ago, who claimed to have a working
watercar and he said, the ratio of gas to air could be as low as 1 :30 or 1:34 when I remember correctly,
but I am not sure if he meant    H2 : air    or     H2+O2 : air.

Regards, Stefan.

[Kysmett]

acetone in its own right is flamable.  Even if you didn't break it down through electrolysis(and if you could, the carbon would settle toward the bottom or recombine with the oxygen to form CO and CO₂), would the injection of a small ammount of acetone allow for a greater air - H₂/O₂ ratio?  Sort of like an accelerant.  Just a thought... a modified fuel injector would be perfect for atomizing it before the spark....so the air/fuel mixture is injected separately but at the same time as the acetone.

You asked for ideas....

[rlm555339]

This is where I get lost.  I'm an electrician, not a chemist so I don't know what happens.  It seems to me that if acetone can be broken down diatomically into it's elements through the electrolysis process like water, then you would end up with 3 carbon, 6 hydrogen, and one oxygen.  Blend that with the 2 hydrogen and 1 oxygen from water and the mixture would be 8 hydrogen, 3 carbon, and 2 oxygen atoms.  So.......what does that end up being?  Burnable?  Flammable?  Explosive?  nothing?

Thoroughly confused,

Ronald