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Overunity Machines Forum



Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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e2matrix

Quote from: woopy on May 18, 2011, 06:44:58 AM
Hi DadHav and Magluvin and all

If i follow you well,  the MOON EFFECT ( page 18 reply 265 from Freeenergyinfo ) of odd versus even provide a  very high  quantity of switching  (stroke) per revolution.

It seems that there is a kind of a second " passing " very fast per revolution ??  Probably an optic illusion but make me think of this, As DadHav suggested also .

As the coil sets are pulsing one after the other , but are connected in parallel, could it be that the pulse of each stroke could  "affect" other coil through the bridge rectifier (eventually double bridge rectifier ). So all the other coil "feel" the pulse of the others.
So each coil would be activated not only 8 time per revolution by the passing rotor magnet, but also by th 8 time of the 6 other coil, that is to say 48 + 8 = 56 time per revolution  :o :o :o yup i am totaly deliring here. Forgive me ;D

so let's go on the delire,  as per this second "passing", for example if we consider 7 coils (2 are left for motorising ) with 8 rotor magnets it is 56 stroke per revolution, so at 1034 RPM  (as  Romero suggests in his last post) we get = 57904 stroke per minute or 965 herz frequency per coil.

Now go to this video of our Thane Heinz that Porteran posted on page 78 at reply 1162


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3gVfltiO-E

So you can see that the rotor has (probably 30 magnets facing one single set of coil.

And the "REGENERATIVE ACCELERATION " occures at about 1850 RPM

So 1850 * 30 =55500 stroke per minute or 925 herz.

HOHO !! what do you think ?.

I think i have to stop testing on one coil set and wait for my litze to work on the full beast, because even at 2000 rpm and more i can only reach about 266 herz, (verified on my scope ).
far too low frequency to get a chance of observing the effect of Thane, and i am testing in pure conventional generator
.
It seems that this secon "passing works only with all coil and rotor together :

Hi Lasersaber where are you in your testing?

Just an idea to try understanding the beast. Hope not be considered as a fool here ;)

good luck at all

Laurent

That's brilliant woopy!  You may have found the secret here.  Replication successes and failures will be able to eventually verify if this is correct. 

khabe

Quote from: webby1 on May 18, 2011, 12:28:01 PM
Don't know if this helps, but this site has a pic of the R\C motor stator and the first link goes to a diagram to rewire the stator.  I do not speak whatever language it is written in but Romerouk stated that you need to rewind this stator with two sections one up one down next to each other to make a unit,, not a coil pair but a unit and when you look at the pic he posted of this motor you will see 6 wires coming out of it.

page 17 reply 240

site 
http://www.rc-network.de/forum/showthread.php/117863-Reparaturversuch-Turnigy-C3530-1400

Perhaps you do not know that RC motors exist as 18 tooth and 16 or 20 rotor magnets as well, this is more close to ::)
I do understand very well what means "one up one down by two sections" but
1.) where to get as large air gap what OU people describe - lessens "drag"  - of course it does , but in the same way it lessens efficiency and performance, power will be lessened and  kV heighten.
2.) What to do with closed magnetic flux (with rotor back iron and with stator flux ring)??? This against OU postulates. When closed then no aether, no vacuum - nothing from where "welcome overunity" can come ::)
4.) Where to put additional magnets? How? To cut this stator to the pieces ???

Yes, Romero spoke he can do with RC motors the same ... and exact this is because I cant believe this story not for one, not for two cent.
Because there are two totally different principles. When he speaks it is possible with RC motors as well - then all speakings about "wonder design", flux cancelling  ... ferrite or black sand, sewing machine bobbins .. or what ever before this or after that -  all is just a clownade - it does not work and finito  8)
cheers,
khabe

any successfully replicated ::)
Oh dear - two weeks!

neptune

@khabe ,oh dear two weeks you say . Between Kennedy announcing the "man on the moon" program and its realisation took about ten years . We are dealing here with something far more important for the future of mankind . Perhaps your doors need another coat of paint ?
       Here is something I find strange . Page 13 reply number 192 . Here romero describes a simple machine by Raymond Kromrey . He says he has built it and it works very well .It looks like a generator . Is it supposed to be OU . There are 2 diagrams and I find it difficult to relate the two together . My interpretation is this . We have a rotor with 4 magnets .There are 4 coils and 4 ferrite bars . anyone agree? From the link provided I could not find relevant info on coil winding and connection . Comments please /

ZeroFossilFuel

Quote from: Tcanuth on May 17, 2011, 05:23:41 PM
Anyone have a rough estimate on how much one of these would cost to replicate to the same scale that Romero's video exhibits?

Halfway tempted to attempt to replicate and see if i can atleast learn something from it if not more.

I just dont want to sink alot of money into it and find out that i still have alot more to do and abandon it.

Much of this stuff I already had. If you must buy everything...

26 N42 3/8"x3/4" Neos from Applied Magnets  $95 delivered
5 12x96mm ferrite rods from ebay $21 delivered
100 1A/40V Schottky diodes from ebay $8 delivered
3/32" acrylic and 5'x1/2" PEX pipe for bobbins $10
Transistors, Hall effect sensors etc about $10
Universal DC/DC switching converter ~$20
3sq-ft of 3/8" Lexan about $45
1Kg of enamel copper wire about $50
3' of 5/16" threaded rod about $5
Bearing(s) about $10-$20
Misc hardware $10

Making history?  Priceless!   ;D

Call it $280-ish. Hopefully I haven't forgotten anything.

Minimum tools needed,

Compass and protractor
Electric hand saw
Drill Press
various drill bits (I use unibits quite a lot)
Hole saw (only if you make your own bobbins like I am)
Analog ammeter(s) and volt meters for testing

Optional equipment:

Oscilloscope for viewing waveforms (not critical if all you're doing is replicating)
Band saw to make cutting easier
Large lathe or average mill with rotary table for perfect rounding of the rotor disk.
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wings

Quote from: webby1 on May 18, 2011, 12:28:01 PM
Don't know if this helps, but this site has a pic of the R\C motor stator and the first link goes to a diagram to rewire the stator.  I do not speak whatever language it is written in but Romerouk stated that you need to rewind this stator with two sections one up one down next to each other to make a unit,, not a coil pair but a unit and when you look at the pic he posted of this motor you will see 6 wires coming out of it.

page 17 reply 240

site 
http://www.rc-network.de/forum/showthread.php/117863-Reparaturversuch-Turnigy-C3530-1400


similar to fisher-paykel,
may be that he was referring to:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/7400-adams-motor-using-fisher-paykel-smart-drive-top-loading.html

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=1024.0