Muller Dynamo

[Magneticitist]

^ maybe.. still some definite questions i cant answer yet and need to tinker more..

but the addition of washers.. i cant really see how that would make a difference so much, especially if they are shaped like the magnet.. if the magnet is directly attached to the washer it might as well be part of the magnet.
i think he used the washers more as a simple way of adding and removing the biasing magnets when he wanted so they would stay in place.

[DimaWari]

@Magneticitist

I think this simple test will do...

[Dbowling]

A washer with a hole in the center might change the shape of the magnetic field, especially if it is insulated from the core of the coil by the insulation around the windings on the wire of the coil.  I don't have the instruments to see that, but I know that metal will change the shape of a magnetic field as well as its interaction with other magnets, so when you have a magnet and an electromagnet separated from each other by a washer with a hole in the center, and they are insulated from each other, it might be possible that the hole in the center somehow focuses the field. Or not. LOL

[e2matrix]

hi neptune

iirc Romero said he didn't own a 'magnet polarity measuring device' because someone had just specifically asked if he did have one

i don't think he meant to imply that he didn't know which way the poles were arranged in his build

hope this helps
np


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Yep all you need is a traditional compass and you can tell the magnet's polarity.  As much as he was into all this I'm fairly sure he knew what polarity his magnets were. 

[konehead]

the reason you want to short at the peaks is two: you will get more volts into your cap, since the votlage "starts out' at the highest it will be, and 2nd reason (the good one) is that it will make the shorting "non-reflective" to the motor draw since it happens at the peak and the rotor "doesnt care" what happens at that point in its rotation...as its "eye of the tornado" point to the rotor-magnets neither push nor pull....make sure shorting pulse width is very short or you will get lug.
If you do get lug, then add an AC cap in series on one of the AC legs of the FWBR - it will work as a "high bypass filter" allowing the high end frequencees to pass through, while blocking the lenz-lugging low end stuff... you will need to experiment with different cap sizes;  for example 6uf will make it absolutely lenz-less as caps fill,  BIT lots of the power will be blocked byt the AC cap, and the cap will fill very slow.....and then for example a 90uf cap will hardly block any power and cap will fill up super fast but then you might get some lug, so search for best cap size for whatever your system happens to be doing - try to not have to use an AC cap in circuit if possible through accurate peak-timing and shortest pulse width possible on the coil-short...just enough to collapse the field and no more/no less is probably what to shoot for in the coil-shorting pulse-width.
Ismael chops his shorting-pulse into a cluster of 5 very quick pulses....he says it doesnt reflect and makes 5 times the power...

Also if any of you want to go crazy (like Woopy will be) with some Mullergen experiments try connecting all coils in series, and then rectify with a single FWBR at end of it all...(saves a few diodes eh) do it while rotor is spinning, amd hook one coil to the next one in series, and see if there is gain in volts or drop in volts...
hook it up in gain in voltage polarity obviously,  then go all the way around the coils, hooking up one coil to next.. there are good reasons "not" to do it like this, such as the coils are all out of phase (!)  buy what it does is confuse the rotor magnets into not "applying" lenz-lug like they would want to and you can take out power without killing  the rotation as it would be if they were all in phase.
you can do the same thing with the motor-coil pulsing too - fire all the coils in series....and the way you have it hooked up for generator-action is the same polarities as it will be for the motor pulsing....

Once you get all the coils like that, then give the string of coils a "short" into a cap and see what happens... (I dont know never tried it but I think woopy is going this direction)...I have tried bringing out backemf in "swtiched" fashion - thei by swtihcing one of the AC legs of a FWBR with AC legs over the swticghing to extract the backef/recoil and this worked really great beyond "belief" since it would raise rpms to motor X2 when backemf came out staight to a load)

the simplest way to beat lenz lug in any gernator is to fill caps-ONLY with the generator coils, then the only thing the coils of the generator ever have to do for its work is to fill caps.....
then dump caps to load, and be sure that you have the generator coils disconnected from caps when they hit load... ("two stage"" ouptut circuit)
Two stage output circuit is necessary when doing coil shorting - one way to do it is say have a 4421 driver and a 4422 driver each with their own bidirectional mosfets....one driver will make its mosfets normally on switchies off, the other driver will makes its mosfets normalyl off swtiched on then fire both with same halleffect...other ways to do this too...

another experimental route to go is to in the RomeroUK machine, have 9 hall effects surrounding the rotor, on efore each coil-position,  so that the 8 magnet-postions, will fire for example an attracive-pulse 9 X 8 = 72 times a rotation....now its going to have some real torque!...
if you want,  have another nine hall effects, this to sense the "repulsive' timing of the coil to magnet, and fire another 72 pulses per revolution....so 144 pulses in one revolution....now we are talking really big power here torque-wise.......

Then what you do is time a "coil short" to occur the same time that you would time a switch to extact the backemf;  say approx 5 degrees delayed to the motor pulse....and fill up a cap and hit the load with the cap in "twostage" output circuit....I think when Ismqael talks about "shoritng the backemf" that is what he does: first the motor-pulse of a coil, then right after that, the shorting-pulse of the same coil, into caps....

If you make two identical motors, it might tbe easiest to loop by simply running one motor off anothers output and vice versa....

in the Romerouk machine, what you can do with this two-motor idea,  is to treat the top coils like "one motor" and the bottom coils like 2nd motor, and run plate of coil's output that goes into cap, into the other....you could also run say the bootm plate cf coils "attractive, and the upper coils "repulsive" so they dont fire a pulse at same time....

Bunch of ideas to chew on eh...

in meantime, lets see for sure if those magnets behind the cores make a big gain in power on the motor-side of it, (apparently RomeroUK didnt do that in his looper) and lets see when you put the magnets behind the generator coils, does that make the thinng lenz-free or not and cam make it loop like Romero's video showed....

I built a small 4 magnets against 5 coils on top and 5 coils on bottom test rig (from stuff lying around on shelf for years)....you dont want to see it but it has 16-srtand very thin wire 36gauge litz coils and ferrite cores... and I did get a speed-up with two large neomagnets behind the cores on top plate, (without coils loaded)but oredered some proper magnets and am waiting for them to arrive so I can test behind each individual core....