Muller Dynamo

[woopy]

Hi all

2 other cents wayting for Rod's (ToranaroD) news  and Lasersaber and Penno and others replicators

good luck at all

Laurent

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SdnN8su3Yc

[e2matrix]

woopy,  couple questions.  I forget if you mentioned this.  Are you currently using Litz wire?  What is the thickness of your top and bottom plates and what type of plastic is it?  I ask this only because at this point yours isn't working like Romero's and we need to look at every detail that is different. 

A couple other questions also.  What type of diodes make up your bridge rectifiers?  Are they just 4 diodes making a bridge or are they on top of a FWBR?   Have you tried reversing coil wiring.  On overunityresearch there seems to be some rather strong difference of opinion on whether the coils may need only wiring switched or whether the entire coil may need to be turned over in order to get the poles switched.
   Location of Hall sensors and sensor magnets?  I am not being critical here.  Only wanting to know any smallest differences.  I don't believe Romero ever said why this worked and was OU so we don't really know exactly what detail might be critical to making it work at this point.  I know you sounded a bit frustrated but try to look at it as a mysterious puzzle game.  When you finally find the secret piece your reward will be great.   E N E R G Y!   Meanwhile enjoy the mystery of the game. 

[plengo]

^ ok i can agree thats somewhat of an acceptable ideology.. i mean "sweet spots" and "resonance" are certainly factors that can raise eyebrows.. offer very distinct and precise changes to a circuit.. sometimes very hard to find these spots..

BUT.. what does that really mean? what is really being envisioned here when one locates this spot? at the end of the day i look at friction and force, no matter the form, being counterparts to a necessary existence.
to say that lenz does not occur is to say no current is being induced, from what i have seen.

so if we are indeed finding some type of Spot.. what is happening there?
do poles get flipped? poles are "not seen" i mean what?

in the past i have noticed that i could gather small amounts of current from gen coils without any slowing of the rotor, but it was so little it would take way too many of the same coils to equal a unity. not enough space.
but i think maybe we can use the same idea and with the help of some magnets "get a little more" without any of the lenz kicking in. this really makes no sense to me because at any level current should equal lenz, but ive seen it.. so i dont know..

at any rate i just feel like if we are confident what we are seeing is real and accurate, then maybe its time to really start thinking "WHY" that is. so far its all been talks of cogging and anti cogging of the cores. i dont get that.
if romeros motor was absent of gen coils i dont he would be having too many problems regarding the core cogging. it wouldnt matter so much i dont think.. may make a little noise.. wont spin down for as long, but once reaching high speeds it should have no problem turning. its the lenz that he needed to get around just like everyone else.

so is he using an arrangement where his gen coils are being shorted with a switch? is he not? how are the magnets actually allowing him to generate 3A worth of current without Lenz slowing it down?

as i said i tried a lot of arrangements trying to figure this out and all i could see is a reduction or increase in the rate at which the coil can induct in relation to the spinning rotor. it makes sense.
its just like tuning your bedini or joule thief by adding a magnet to the core. depending on the polarity u are using to influence you are changing the core (inductance?, permeability?, hysteresis?) so that it either allows more or less current through it during a pulse.

so even if you are influencing a gen coil so that it does not slow the rotor under heavy load, that load as it turns out may not be so heavy.. rather, the load is present but not "being loaded" to the extent that it would had the magnet not been there to influence it.

great arguments man. You look like you know by experience what you are explaining. Sounds very much like an EE. Great.

Now, can we focus on the solution? We know we can't fly, our body is absolutely not aerodynamic, we are too heavy and worse we are not birds, right?!! Wrong, we can fly and we have.

Just because we don't understand or current science explains to the level of our experiences does not mean it is not possible. Lenz law is just an explanation of physical realities limited by our experiments and understandings of the real thing. They are great for helping us overcome the current limitations and improve our insight of things.

Stating the impossibilities will not solve the problem it will only worsen it. Let's focus on experiments and analysis of our DATA of OUR EXPERIMENTs not just analysis of what we read in the books or learned at school. Science is to break those barriers and move further not backward in the established culture and limited knowledge.

Let's focus, please. Think out of the box, think of experiments we can perform to achieve the necessary means of OU. Look at what Romero (and many others) have done and try to break the "brain dead state" that we are now. May be Romero is all a fake, ..., may be not.

Experiments will teaches the truth and helps us understand the real science, the one we learn by doing it.

Fausto.

ps: I will start deleting again if we derail in the impossibilities. We already have those arguments in 20 or more pages before this one.

[plengo]

@Woopy,

great video man. I noticed some things that are very strange. Romero's video shows a consumption of about 1 amp of current while yours is at around 200ma max. I think your motor is working very well as a motor but not generator to the level of causing the input consumption of energy to increase.

On my first test with my "incomplete" motor I am using 150+ohms relay coils and 150+mh inductance. The cores are very "magnetic" so that it causes an enormous amount of cogging which causes the input current of my system to go easily to 1/2 an amp and more. It also spins only around 10 to15rpm very slow BUT it does generate a good amount of energy in each generator coil.

The attraction to the cores is very strong and therefore causes a high friction. In your case I see your rotor spins very freely and also consumes very little. This is a sign that we are definitely missing something different from Romero's build. I don't have the answer for what it is but it is very obvious to me that something is different.

What is the resistance and inductance of your coils? and what core are you using? Can you describe the "cogging" resistance or how much one would need to overcome the TDC spin at one magnet?

Many thanks,

Fausto.

[hartiberlin]

Hi Woopy, well done video.

Romero did use additional ferrite magnets at the lower side of the stator
with plastic washers between the neodymn and ferrite magnets there.

Also your iron washers seem to have a very small hole only.

This could be a great factor that your magnets dont conduct the flux down below to the ferrite rods..

Have you tested ONE coil pair for optimum distances so the flux switches back and forth inside the ferrite rods ?

Maybe you need to get a GAUSS meter that you can put on your scope ?

Regards, Stefan.