Muller Dynamo

[e2matrix]

Cherryman and other replicators,  I understand your desire to do this with the least expense possible.  However consider the wood versus acrylic as a possible important point.  I don't remember if it was mentioned here but I've seen some reference to the static electric nature acrylic has.  Maybe it can be a source of electrons.  I wouldn't exclude it as one of the possible reasons why this is able to work.  BTW Cherryman thanks for taking time to make up the drawings for those who are thinking of trying a less expensive plan.  But there is a saying I learned in a former construction job that stuck with me: "the high cost of cheap construction".  That of course means when you first cheap attempt fails it will cost you those materials plus a new set of quality materials to fix it. 

[ltseung888]

Below is a picture with the scope connected at the AC point before bridge.

Correct interpretation of the Rumerouk screen Output Shot at reply 328

Most people will interpret the displayed waveform as some kind of AC waveform.  Another (correct) interpretation is that there are two Pulsed DC waves travelling in opposite directions with a pause in the middle.

That particular displayed wave is just the voltage output.  If Rumerouk had done the full thing â€" Instantaneous Voltage, Instantaneous Current and Instantaneous Power for both Input and Output, the picture will be much clearer.

But I shall focus on the “correct” interpretation.  Power comes out (positive waveform) but there is brought-in energy coming back (negative waveform).  We only have the voltage waveform at present but it should not take Rumerouk or other replicators too long to do the full measurements.  The actual energy should be the total area under the Instantaneous Power Curve.  That should be the numeric sum of the positive area + the numeric sum of the negative area. 

If Rumerouk had taken the Input Voltage, Current and Power measurements, the waveform for the Power Curve for the drive coils (INPUT) should also show a positive and negative area.  That should not be interpreted as AC energy going to the drive coils.  The above correct explanation applies.

I learned this the hard way with the Tong Wheel and FLEET.  I had the misfortune of debating with Poynt99 with Harvey as the Moderator.  Instead of relying on the waveform, the debate ended with “using the mean value” of the Instantaneous Power as the “recommended” method.

Please learn from my mistake and trust the waveforms.  The voltage waveform is NOT a simple AC.  It is two waves â€" a pulsed DC in the forward direction and a pulsed DC in the backward direction.  That is why the battery can be recharged without any loopback circuits!

After looking at the output voltage waveform reply 328, I am more certain that the Muller/Rumerouk device is an example of the second Divine Revelation.  Amen.

[eisnad karm]

@hho Brian
Lutec has never been able to close loop there's...no doubt they will be building one of these now. After 10 years what have they to show for all the investors money.
This I feel is a great demo and many thanks to RomeroUK for open sourcing it
Kind Regards
Mark

[infringer]

I have started a parts and source listing need help completing it made a new thread just for this.

Any help would be greatly apprciated

We need a complete 100% parts listing as well as a source to make all the parts that are needed nothing left out.

We need a part quantity and a place to purchase them online in the form of a link.

100% complete no BS no guess work we need 100% proper measurments for parts that need to be made like the stator and the rotor.

I know someone I could contact with a laser cutter locally but without 100% fool proof dimensions to give this guy I cannot get him to make them the reasons are obvious.

That maplin DC to DC converter is a hard to find piece as well.

I could wind up spending thousands of dollars and many iterations and still not accomplish this task as you seem to believe...

This is not possible for the average human being you need more info while you say all the questions have been answered and your not doing
another video I don't think you will have a successful build replication without being more specific.

Maybe share with us the CAD files used for making the stator and rotor and any and every part used with measurements and specifics.

if we want replication we need more specifications its that simple.

You said it yourself this thing wont work until everything is perfect we need to know what perfect is for this device in order to achieve such a standard!

There is no way to replicate something without having a place to purchase all of the parts needed I am sorry to sound rude but it will not happen if you make it impossible to source parts.

[plengo]

@Romero,

what is the ohmic resistance of one of your generator coils and the driving coil, please? And if you could even measure the inductance it would be wonderful but if not it is ok.

No where I found a reference to it.

I dismantled one of my relays purchased at RadioShack and it is a tiny coil with probably 32awg gage and it is around 150ohms. A thought that it may be way too high for this setup but never know. This way I don't have to make them myself and make it easier for others to replicate too.


Many thanks,

Fausto.