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Overunity Machines Forum



Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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steeltpu

trolls are still trying.  This may seem off topic.  However I hope all of you can see how appropriate it is at this time as it is the same situation or close to it.  It is time to stop putting up with this bullshit.  Stop looking over your shoulder if you have something.  Time to turn the tables and become the pursuers instead of the pursued.
Look at this and tell me this isn't maddening and much the same as what is happening here.  This just came out today:

" Jim Humble NEWSLETTER
Kill Order #?
5/10/2011

I have just learned from a highly reliable source that the FBI now has a kill order on Jim Humble.  That’s me.  I wish I could say that the Government source isn’t very reliable, but this source has proven to be very reliable up to this time.  Several plans were to be considered including having me invited to a country in Asia and there I would have an accident.  The other possibility was that I could have an accident here in the Dominican Republic, but that would be a less likely plan.  But remember, when Obama says kill, that's what they do.  It doesn't matter if they are guilty or not.   

Why not?  They kidnapped my friend, Greg Caton, from Ecuador and brought him back to prison after Ecuador had given him political asylum.   It was in the newspaper about a year ago.  Check it out for yourself. Search for "Greg Canton Kidnapped" in Google search.   I have another friend in prison for healing people and another one, with his legs blown off for healing people.   There is a list of 160 scientists who have made inventions that would aid mankind in one way or another who have died violent deaths in the past 20 years.  That isn’t my idea.  Check it out on the internet.   I don’t care if you believe in conspiracy theories or not; just be willing to read.  It’s all there.

The reason I am telling you this is, so that when I come up missing or come up dead you will know what has really happened.  And of course, you probably already know that should my death occur, all my books and other materials on MMS become public domain. That is already written into my copyright.  Hopefully then, people who knew me or of me will print my books, mainly the last one, and hand them out wholesale until everyone on the planet has one.

I know that there are many of you that are not accustomed to this sort of thing, but on the other hand I have gotten letters from time to time that show that there are many people who do know the score.  And the score is, that there are people in this world who are beginning to lose money because of MMS.  That, of course is, pharmaceutical companies, hospitals, clinics, doctors, and a host of related industries.  They aren’t too worried about a few million dollars of losses now, but they are looking at the huge loss that will soon be happening when MMS becomes popular. We all know that, “the love of money”, is one of the main reasons for the world’s problems.

Of course, it is a little late for them to do anything now with more than 8 million people having used MMS and with thousands of web sites and with thousands of MMS success stories posted all over the world. But still, if they could say I disappeared and then if they put some poisoned MMS out without me to oppose them they might make some of their lies stick.  Remember, for every cancer patient that they convince that MMS doesn’t work they make $800,000 dollars for the cancer industry. A similar story exists for malaria the worst disease of mankind and many other diseases."




Tudi

yesterday it was all about the fun of assembling things. Let's try to keep that way. Maybe we learn some things in the process. It does not really matter what kind of conspiracy theory is true regarding romerouk, he gave all the info he had, all he asked is a confirmation for the process. In the end it was not him claiming anything, he only tried to replicate other's claims. I see no point for him to disappear without a reason(whatever that would be)

ps: I wonder why bill muller was not shot

wopwops

I wonder why Sterling Allen wasn't all over this one? Does anyone else find that weird?

nul-points

Quote from: Tudi on May 11, 2011, 02:58:02 AM
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Maybe we learn some things in the process
[...]

hi Tudi, welcome back

what did you make of the Dragone paper i posted for you?

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Tudi

Hi nul-points

In the first line of dragone document it states : ...the current in the coil is turned on, the coil fields can aid or cancel the PM field.
That means you are sacrificing power from a source to cancel out an electromagenetic field. There is only loss here and absolutly no gain. He might be right about harnesing the "comback of the EMF" which in absolut theoretical values would give you a total 0 energy cycle ( you spent energy to cancel out the EMF, then your harnessed the resonant circuit to get back that same energy).
They say that a permanent magnet creates a magnetic field that is considered a STATE and not energy. You cannot harness a state. Yes, moving metals close to a magnet will also try to align their state to their neighbour thanks to the mechanical energy you sacrifice to force them move closer or leave the field.
Yes, the document is right about the fenomenon of thermal energy gain loss when fields get created or colapsed. This is documented on wikipedia. Permanent magnets are created at high temperature and high magnetic field when the structure of the material gets rearanged. This magnetic property will be lost if one of the above conditions are met to cancel out the rearangement. This is important to know to understand why the core of a coil heats up. As you move a permanent magnet close to the ferite core, you sacrifice mechanical energy to rearange the structure of the ferite core to inherit the magnetic state of the permanent magnet. As the magnet leaves the vecinity of the core the ferite gets rearanged again. Due to the 2 state changes, the mechanical energy gets converted into heat.
Yes, there are theories this heat can be converted back to another form of energy.

short version: muller generator is about having balance. The idea is to not convert mechanical energy into heat by changing the ferite core. It is also about avoiding the trap of the backemf.
Imagine you breath through a pipe. The air is electron flow. You try to inhale using the pipe ( PM getting close to coil) but you take your mouth away when breathing out ( the colapsing field will try to obtain energy from other forms ). There are theories that this colapsing field will take much longer to get to a 0 point then the amount of time it takes to build up, some say that in case the circuit separation is not mechanical + strong enough a virtual capacitor will get created at the separation point and slowly discharging ( the discharge gap of many devices i see around ).

Why i think this circuit might work :
- there are states of this machine when electromagnetic fields are getting created and colapsed. EMF is a state, it is not energy ! State changes come from mechanical energy in this device.
- there is a smart circuit to try to separate the back EMF from the EMF buildup
- the positioning of the magnets ABOVE the coils that are trying to balance the magnetic state of the machine

how i imagine this circuit could be improved :
- achieve the perfect magnetic balance. This is as i imagine a state when the rotating plate in the middle will not try to stick in to a certain position. It will continuesly rotate without having a very strong lockdown position. This will ensure a close to 1:1 mechanical to electrical conversion if the ferite rods will not try to change magnetic state( heat up ).
- improve the back EMF separation circuit. Try to do some math for the breakpoint of diodes and transistors. Make sure you will manage to break the resonant circuit (R L C )
- make sure you give enough time for the coils to demagnetize. Not sure where this energy will be drawn from. Your best case is heat ( i just read documents ) maybe switching to a new source (like ground grounding )
- the ferite core details might be important. If this gets heated then it is not good at all.

The devil is in the details. The number of coils / magnets, there should be no state 0 of this device, it should be in perfect balance, the spacing between magnets, coils needs to get close to perfection. One coil will always build up EMF while the other will try to deplete.

But note that a perfect balanced device will run for quite a while from the initial input energy. Think about a pendulum clock that can run for a day or so from 1 kick. So, to test out the gain, you should have a strong as possible consumer (lightbulb) that will not kill the looping device.

PS : i'm a programer that spends all day debugging issues. My job is to be an analist and not a physician. I try to see the multiple aproaches and try to get the common part of the circuits described on this forum. Try to eliminate the nonsense parts and get the main idea.