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Overunity Machines Forum



Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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abdlquadri

Quote from: sterlinga on May 11, 2011, 09:28:08 AM
It has been brought to my attention that this demonstration was a hoax.

Question, could the perpetrator be criminally charged?  Or would this be a civil matter?  What would be the charge?  Who would /could bring the charge?

If you know the answer, would you mind Cc'ing me to my email via sterlingda {at} pureenergysystems.com

We're working up a story for this for PESN and want to include that information to help deter any future hoaxes.

Thanks
WHAT IS THIS!

teslaalset

Quote from: abdlquadri on May 11, 2011, 10:17:03 AM
WHAT IS THIS!

Sterlinga is the owner of a quite influencial and informative website on new energy technology.
http://peswiki.com

khabe

Quote from: hartiberlin on May 11, 2011, 08:09:07 AM
Khabe,
stop the discussion with the supercapacitor.
There was no one.
ALso in the first video he has only the coils output directly via the bridge rectifiers to the lamp
and it was also 24 Watts out and only about 11 Watts input
with NO capacitor !

Why to anger, Stefan  :o
I did repeat several times I do not speak about Romero, I just thought about how its possible to fake,
just need to change the label (the name and  figures)  and SuperCap looks like common electrolytic cap  ::)
cheers,
khabe

hartiberlin

Quote from: khabe on May 11, 2011, 10:20:49 AM
Why to anger, Stefan  :o
I did repeat several times I do not speak about Romero, I just thought about how its possible to fake,
just need to change the label (the name and  figures)  and SuperCap looks like common electrolytic cap  ::)
cheers,
khabe

Then figure out how he did the first video with the lamp directly connected to the rectifier
output without any DC2DC converter...
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

nul-points

Quote from: khabe on May 11, 2011, 10:20:49 AM
[...]
I do not speak about Romero, I just thought about how its possible to fake,
just need to change the label (the name and  figures)  and SuperCap looks like common electrolytic cap  ::)
[...]
khabe

i disagree, khabe:

Quote from: nul-points on May 11, 2011, 08:22:15 AM
the main supply switch is NOT at the position shown in the schematic!
(page 1 this thread, as at 12:33 GMT 11 May '11)

when Romero switches off the device at the end of the "self-run test 1" vid (18:48), the DC converter is no longer connected to the joint output of the FWBRs - but it is STILL CONNECTED to the buffer cap

IF there was a battery in the cap then it would be STILL CONNECTED to the motor drive when Romero disconnects the FWBRs!

yet, instantly he disconnects the FWBRs (at 18:48) you can hear the rotor start to spin down

the FWBR o/p is across the only 2 connections on the buffer cap, so IF there was a battery inside the cap, then we'd then have to claim that Romero has also hidden an extra circuit into the cap which detects that the battery terminal voltage has dropped slightly (because no i/p now from FWBRs) and therefore disconnects the battery from those same 2 terminals

of course, at start-up, such a circuit would then need to be able to detect that the FWBRs have just been connected and connect the battery to those same 2 terminals again

so to avoid extra sensing complexity, our 'Cap-Spoofing' circuit would probably need to be continuously connected to the 'hidden' battery (or have a 2nd battery available) so that it could re-connect the main battery to the terminals again
[...]
the whole 'battery-in-cap' objection starts to look just a tad, shall we say, 'far-fetched'?!?
[...]
the DC Conv was switched to 12V at ~18:10 (DVM shows 12V)

Romero states that at 12V DC conv setting he reads ~15V at buffer cap

energy for 15V in 47000uF cap (at switch-off, 18:48) ~= 5.3 Joules = 5.3 Watt-seconds

at 12V i/p the motor draws 12W

so - at switch-off, with 5.3 Watt-seconds in the cap, and even IF the DC converter could convert it all (which it can't!) then the cap can only supply enough energy to drive the motor for less than HALF a second!

it's pretty clear, therefore, that the ONLY function of the buffer cap is to filter the FWBR o/p waveform and provide steady, smoothed DC

ie. when Romero disconnects the FWBRs - that baby is just going to spin down
(taking about 100 seconds - replicators please note - good bearings - low cogging - nice work Romero!)

this same argument applies to a SuperCap - IF there was a SuperCap hidden inside the 47000uF case, then it would have to get disconnected by the same sort of circuit i just described - otherwise the rotor would NOT spin down in 100 seconds

from  link -->  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.msg285674#msg285674


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