Muller Dynamo

[Pirate88179]

Lidmotor is a very good experimenter and replicator.  His videos are clear and well explained.  Give him a little time and he will get this I am sure.  He is very innovative and resourceful too.

As my old patent attorney once told me, once you disclose your idea to the general public, the idea is no longer patentable.  Removing videos and posts does not "un-ring the bell".  This does not mean he, or whomever buys it, can not obtain a patent but, it will be ruled null and void at first challenge due to the public disclosure.

Bill

[abdlquadri]

Hi all,
my question may be stupid, but it is very important as I argued with one of my friends in the interpretation of the meaning of free energy and overunity and what is the different between them from the scientific point of view term in brief?

thank you

Overunity means you have a COP(energy output energy divided by input by operator)  more than 1(unity); hence overunity. The extra is coming from the environment. Note all system have efficiency less than 100%.
Like John Bedini says there is no free energy (We are tapping into energy from the environment - No school is teaching how to do that presently). Tom Bearden says  "when we say free, we mean free for the taking - we dont expend any energy to get it apart from contruction work etc" - qoute is not exact. Read Tom Beardens wesite: http://www.cheniere.org/ (warning technical stuff ahead)

[khabe]

Some thoughts about today readings:
Any load for generator will cause feelable drag for driver (does not matter is the driver integrated, some other motor or your own hand),
You just connect any electrical load with - instantly reduces speed and current of driving motor crows.
To get back the same speed you must to "crack the whip" what one more time causes urgent needs for more energy.
At that it is not like 1W/1W, surely will be added all losses from both sides.
If it works not like that ... means something is not correct You have no losses Come on, guys
It does not matter is it iron core or air core type generator or motor, It does not matter you have cogging reduced by this very old trick with
pole/tooth combination, by skewing or by what ever, you have large air gap or thin gap - it does not matter. It is like that you like it or not.
It does not matter you are using "traditional education in magnetic and motor theory" or some kind of mystical terms 
Neodymium magnet must to be at least twice as thick as air cap (as weaker magnet as thicker it must to be) this is rule of thumb for good motors/generators -  air gap not larger than half thickness of magnets.
Yes, always we have exceptions  -  good sample about impressive assiduity wheres low current and thin magnets vs relatively large air cap, are PC hd-storage voice coil motors.

Cogging is literally not a drag, cogging impedes to start generator, but when it already rotates then it does not act like that.
When maximum load then generator cogging disappears at all even when hard cogging style iron core machine (when it is rightly built).
Cogging is like compression when gas or diesel engines. Cogging causes noise, especially when weak built, loose shaft and bearings.
Of course when ultra-fine-high-tech-over-unity-experiments, then cogging causes lot of problems 
In real life cogging causes problem for wind generators because wont start with low wind.
Also problems for servo motors, especially for precision servo motors, but there must to be noted that what ever trick to use to reduce iron core machine cogging it does act to efficiency. Surely not much , but it does.

Ferrofluid is almost thin oil + printer black,
Printer black is finest dust of "black sand" aka Magnetite,
far no the best magnetic material for high efficient electric machines.

cheers,
khabe

[lanenal]

@woopy
good to see you arround.
Regarding the stranded wire:
Some time ago in a Bedini project I have built 2 identical coils but one with normal wire and another with stranded wire.I was using this coils to collect the power from the rotor powered with a Bedini standard circuit.Same core same wire diameter, all the same...
The results at that time(no load):   normal wire output was 9.2 volts
                                                stranded wire output was 12.3
since then I have always used stranded for most of my coils
it is easy to do the same experiment like me, actually it would be nice if someone else will confirm this.
I always try everything myself, I don't take all info I found as granted.
If I was wrong I would like someone to tell me.

I am still trying to understand Romero's reason for choosing multi-strand wire.
After some study I figured out that 7-strand in parallel doesn't increase inductance, only decrease resistance (possibly increase Q-factor by 150%-200% at very high frequencies like 500KHz-2000KHz if a Litz wire is used). Could his experiment cited above simply be explained by the smaller resistance (actually, should 7 times smaller if 7 strands of the same diameter wire were used)?

However, no conclusion can be made yet about the role of the 7-strand En.Cu used in his working device. Tentatively, we might put forward an experiment proposal:

1. Repeat Remero's original experiment, but test with coil leads open (so no current), then one should get the same voltage.

2. When coils are hooked up to a load, different readings shall arise.

3. we may substitute the 0.125 X 7 stranded wire with a single wire of diameter 0.125 X sqrt(7) = 0.33 (to obtain the same resistance) and see if we can get similar pickup voltages with whatever load we wish to put on.

lanenal

[DadHav]

really nice videos DadHav. I think this particulary is important to see by most of the guys here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHJRWL42rCU Just skip to minute 15:25 and watch it for 15 seconds. The motor is eating up 0.00001 Volts ( don't care about amps, it's to measure time) per second from 2 volts. that means this device might run for 2 days aprox just on the CAP. So, in case you do manage to make a replication of RomeroUK device, do put a lightbulb or something that you know it should deplete the CAP in a measurable amount of time ( minutes ? )

@Charlie_V : nice analysis, We are searching for some unknown effect here. Let's try to dump what we already know it will not work. What seems to be unique about Romero's work is that he put PM's on top of the coils, maybe these get converted somehow into push power when the coils are not generating electricity. They will probably help in the aid of the magnetic field through the coils also, but this is a known effect. Another interesting thing about Romero's connecting each of the coils. When coil 1 is generating power, coil 2 is supposed to draw power from coil 1, so there should be no power in the wires at all, but he limited the back EMF so coil 1 is not feeding coil 2.
Maybe, i really hope, that the collision of the feed / generate cycles represent some mistery that may lead to some results. Apart from that, it's a very efficient generator / motor design.

Tudi. That's a point that I've been trying to make for a long time. The motor in the video at last test set up was dropping .001 volt every 15 minutes. It's no problem getting a 4 day run off the capacitor. So OK if I use a 3 or 4 digit meter, it's real easy to get tricked and think you're at unity It takes more than the length of a video to have a digit change. It's also simple to confuse others. If I put my finger on the capacitor the voltage goes up. That's why I found a 6 digit meter on E-bay for $87.00 USD. I don't like tricks and I don't pull any. Thanks for visiting my channel. I'm proud that it gets referenced once and a while.
Take care.
John H (DadHav)