Muller Dynamo

[toranarod]

We have seen self runners come and go . there have indubitably been hoaxes . The notorious Mylow . and likely Mike as well . As time goes on , more experienced people are using ever more sophisticated techniques to analyse these videos , using methods that James Bond would envy .There are people who come on these forums that refuse to entertain the faintest possibility that OU exists . I can never understand why they spend their time here . As it happens , I don`t believe in Fairies . But I don't spend all my working hours searching pro-fairy forums debunking the believers . Every day we get a little nearer to the truth . Look how long it took man to learn to fly . We have reason to hope that this will not take as long .
PS every time people show pictures of coils . I think of my little grandson`s favourite nursery ryme , "Wind the bobbin up "

Here is a small snippet from an email I received a few weeks ago. I have edited out the names. I thought this was very telling.

I know a man xxxxxxxx He made it big in the xxxxx business. He sold out to some international conglomerate and is set for life. As part of his humanitarian contribution to the world he decided to search for a true free energy technology and do what it takes to finance it and develop it into something workable, hoping to do an end run around the MIB. He doesn’t do all his work on the Internet. For the last two years he has traveled to the prospective inventors with about $50,000 in Tektronix energy analyzers and other support equipment (including the FET probes). When I talked to him last, about 4 months ago at xxx here in xxxx, he said he had personally interview 118 individuals in 10 different countries. He said:

4% are outright Fraud (I thought that number was low)
48% have instrumentation errors and 80% of those are with current analysis â€" especially pulsed current.
48% are delusional about their accomplishments and the manner in which they evaluate their results

It’s those last 48% that clog up the forums and discussion groups. You can show them with the latest equipment that their setup is only running at 70% efficiency and they will continue to think they have made a breakthrough and want you to provide them a research grant and buy stock in their company. So far he has found two legitimate OU devices one that operated at the 1 watt power level and another at 1000 watts. He attempted to get the second one together with a prince in Europe that was ready to finance a manufacturing effort, but the inventor wanted 60 million Euros up front. So far the people with the working inventions are impossible to do business with. No wonder so many inventors go to the grave with their secret. This is the same problem that Stan myers had.

[toranarod]

Hi Toranarod

How thick is the skin on the inside?

Best to get the wire as close as you can to the ferrite.

Nice looking bobbin though

Cheers

Sean.

My machine guy got them down to 0.4 mm

[nul-points]

Yeah, cap may be not faked, may be just forged ...

yeah, and Elvis may not be dead


i think we dealt with Romero's 'fake/forged cap' several times

when the generator gets disconnected from the cap/converter/motor system this so-called 'fake cap' is unable to prevent the rotor from running down to a stop in 100 seconds

please don't clog the thread with this again, unless you have evidence or something new to say, thanks

Perhaps you do not reckon with energy what simultaneously still comes from generator side  - perhaps run time will come longer than you calculated,

i didn't have to 'calculate' the run time - i observed it in the video

when the generator IS connected to the cap/converter/motor system, and the BATTERY gets disconnected, then the device runs until switched off (ie. for at least 10 minutes at 12V, plus some minutes at other volts)

at battery disconnect there are 5.3 Watt-seconds of energy in the cap

the motor needs 7200 Watt-seconds of energy to run for 10 minutes (600s)

we know from my point above that the cap on its own is incapable of keeping the rotor running any longer than 100s - and all that time the rotor is running down, not maintaining speed

you have not explained where the excess 7194.7 Watt-seconds comes from, to keep the motor running, overcome the DC converter losses and occasionally light a filament bulb

please do not say "from the generator side" , because the generator will only transmit energy if the motor is performing work

what gives the motor at least 7200 Watt-seconds of energy to keep running for more than 600 seconds?

we've already seen that it is NOT the 5.3 Watt-seconds of energy in the 'fake/forged' cap

and it is NOT the 100 seconds worth of 'inertial' energy in the spinning rotor

[...]
tried my small drilling machine,
[...]
I start the motor by full throttle and after few seconds I switch of 240V AC .... it runs more than 1 second until  motors stops
[...]

i'm pleased to see that you keep all your equipment well lubricated

MY wife has to keep REMINDING me! 


np


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

[JouleSeeker]

Be serious, Rod is a serious experimenter, read his Adam's work for example.

Mike was a flash in the pan, from out of nowhere. A guy named Joe had a Yahoo group called "Scam or no Scam", long since gone, so just going on memory what discrepancies he posted that he found.

Not too many OU running Mike's window motors running today, running a 5 watt bulb... should answer your questions

Ron

   Thanks for this clarification, I-ron.   As I looked at a few of his videos, I thought Rod was a serious -- and very creative -- inventor.  Glad you found the same.

Thanks for posting that email, nul-points.  I found that informative and helpful -- encouraging.

[e2matrix]

i believe neptune is correct

iirc Romero said that he added the stator magnets later, to assist in anti-cogging of his already built rotor + stator system

his description of the stator/rotor system is that it works in attraction mode

ie. if the rotor mags are N up, then the top stator coil is driven S down
(and the inverse for the lower side ofc)

hth
np


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

I'm fairly sure that is what I read either here or on Romero's forum before it got pulled down.  IIRC he said it was by attraction.  Just adding to the consensus here as this has come up before in this thread.