Muller Dynamo

[nul-points]

it seems that some folks want to argue from what they 'know must be correct', rather than from looking at the evidence

this is WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING in the 'self-run' video BASED ON THE EVIDENCE that we can see there:-


when Romero starts the device and then disconnects the battery, the motor drive i/p is clamped at 12V by the DC converter (the o/p voltage on the cap is 15V)

the rotor will also store some inertial energy (it has momentum)

There are now effectively ONLY TWO STORES OF SUSTAINING ENERGY in the system
1) the buffer cap 
2) the rotor

Lets call the total energy they contain at this point: Ea


later in the video, Romero switches the DC converter to a lower voltage (4.5V, i believe)

at this voltage, the rotor slows down to a much lower rpm than it was at 12V
(there was not enough inertial energy in the rotor to maintain the same speed, and the rpm immediately started to decrease to a lower speed)

the rotor has lost some momentum - so the energy stored in the rotor has DECREASED

since the rotor rpm has decreased, the o/p voltage from the generator, on the cap, will now be much lower (say, 5.5V approx) - so the energy stored in the cap has DECREASED

therefore the TOTAL ENERGY stored in the system has DECREASED

let's call this new, lower energy: Eb

the energy lost was mainly dissipated as heat by the DC converter: (Ea - Eb)


then Romero switches voltage selection on the DC converter back to 12V, the motor drive is no longer clamped at 4.5V and the rotor starts to increase in rpm

- the device RETURNS to its original 12V motor i/p drive,
- the cap voltage from generator o/p returns to 15V - an INCREASE in stored energy
- the rotor speed returns to its higher rpm - an INCREASE in stored energy

NOW there is the previous HIGHER TOTAL ENERGY in the system again, Ea


QUESTION: FROM WHERE did the extra energy come???

it didn't come from the cap

it didn't come from the rotor


i agree that Romero's experiment results did not conform to conventional theory

i am just stating what the EVIDENCE shows


if you disagree with my interpretation of the evidence, then please use the same source of evidence to answer my question above


thanks
np


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

[Thaelin]

   Thats easy, its called over taxation. When you do international shipments, you incur all kinds of added taxes. Both your country and the destination. Some just will not pay them.

thay

WTF!!!!!!!!!! Wont ship to USA!!!!!! or Switzerland!!!!!!! WTF does THIS mean??

[TEKTRON]

it seems that some folks want to argue from what they 'know must be correct', rather than from looking at the evidence

this is WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING in the 'self-run' video BASED ON THE EVIDENCE that we can see there:-


when Romero starts the device and then disconnects the battery, the motor drive i/p is clamped at 12V by the DC converter (the o/p voltage on the cap is 15V)

the rotor will also store some inertial energy (it has momentum)

There are now effectively ONLY TWO STORES OF SUSTAINING ENERGY in the system
1) the buffer cap 
2) the rotor

Lets call this total energy: Ea


later in the video, Romero switches the DC converter to a lower voltage (4.5V, i believe)

at this voltage, the rotor slows down to a much lower rpm than it was at 12V
(there was not enough inertial energy in the rotor to maintain the same speed, and the rpm immediately started to decrease to a lower speed)

the rotor has lost some momentum - so the energy stored in the rotor has DECREASED

since the rotor rpm has decreased, the o/p voltage from the generator, on the cap, will now be much lower (say, 5.5V approx) - so the energy stored in the cap has DECREASED

therefore the TOTAL ENERGY stored in the system has DECREASED

let's call this new, lower energy: Eb

the energy lost was mainly dissipated as heat by the DC converter: (Ea - Eb)


then Romero switches voltage selection on the DC converter back to 12V, the motor drive is no longer clamped at 4.5V and the rotor starts to increase in rpm

- the device RETURNS to its original 12V motor i/p drive,
- the cap voltage from generator o/p returns to 15V - an INCREASE in stored energy
- the rotor speed returns to its higher rpm - an INCREASE in stored energy

NOW there is the previous HIGHER TOTAL ENERGY in the system again, Ea


QUESTION: FROM WHERE did the extra energy come???

it didn't come from the cap

it didn't come from the rotor


i agree that Romero's experiment did not conform to conventional theory

i am just stating what the EVIDENCE shows


if you disagree with my interpretation of the evidence, then please use the same source of evidence to answer my question above


thanks
np


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

Null, I totally agree with you. R. is not a fake. I wanted to order the 33 ferrite spools mentioned above, but no glory to USA.

[khabe]

WTF!!!!!!!!!! Wont ship to USA!!!!!! or Switzerland!!!!!!! WTF does THIS mean??

Yeah, some Sellers are like that, but what we can do Nothing 
90% US ebay Sellers never ship to oversea 
There is one more H-kern seller in ebay-de
http://stores.ebay.de/Jimmsallerlei/_i.html?_nkw=H-Kern&submit=Finden&_sid=59310065
unfortunately cost is 10 or 15 times higher 
Perhaps you have some companion in Germany or neighbourhood,
he buy http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220660230192&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
and then post it to you,
Herr Hartmann will surely help 
cheers,
khabe

For this time 2 items sold,

I wonder this Seller declares SHIP TO WORLDWIDE ,

Artikelstandort: Stralsund, Deutschland
Versand nach: Weltweit

And then ... Excluded ... ALL THE WORLD 

Ausgeschlossen: Afrika, Asien, Mittelamerika und Karibik, Naher Osten, Nordamerika, Ozeanien, Südostasien, Südamerika, Albanien, Andorra, Bosnien und Herzegowina, Bulgarien, Dänemark, Estland, Finnland, Frankreich, Gibraltar, Griechenland, Großbritannien, Guernsey, Irland, Island, Italien, Jersey, Kroatien, Lettland, Liechtenstein, Litauen, Malta, Mazedonien, Moldawien, Monaco, Montenegro, Norwegen, Polen, Portugal, Rumänien, San Marino, Schweden, Schweiz, Serbien, Slowakei, Slowenien, Spanien, Svalbard and Jan Mayen, Tschechische Republik, Ukraine, Ungarn, Vatikanstadt (Heiliger Stuhl), Weißrussland, Zypern

Much easier to tell that Ship to Germany ...
Or what?

[khabe]

Got quick reply from this H-kerne man,

Weltweit ( worldwide ) geht für einige Artikel nur per Paket da die Ware sehr zerbrechlich und sehr schwer ist
können wir den Versandpreis nur für Deutschland und die Nachbarländer ( Belgien Niederlände Luxemburg Österreich )
günstig anbieten das hat nichts mit - nicht mögen - oder - bevorzugen zu tun
Es ist genau so schwer nach Frankreich Schweiz Tschechien Dänemark Schweden und Polen zu versenden


Everyone has his own logic and understanding about what it means - WORLDWIDE
cheers,
khabe