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Overunity Machines Forum



Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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Magluvin

Hey Webby

Well, if it works and the values are true, we can assume that maybe the wave or resonating function, we are reading the low end of a standing wave. ;]  Sounds good doesnt it?

Mags

albert

The point here is that Romero might have hit upon a one in a million combination of materials, geometry and electrical connections without knowing exactly why this thing would perform where x others of the same kind did not perform. The fact that the muller motor was not ou or has not been documented as being ou is no hindrance here. Its this one specific machine romero had on his work table that did the trick.
I think Woopy is the closest to the truth. There is a kind of rippling wave thru the coils, they all influence each other and the geometry creates this strange kind of precessional movement. Remember that a coil in an lc or tank circuit stores energy as well as a capacitor. I think that maybe the
coils function like buckets in a bucket chain where you pour water from one bucket into the next one.
Could it be that romero had one of his added diodes over the fwbrs in reverse by accident? What would that do?

e2matrix

Quote from: Magluvin on May 19, 2011, 11:57:24 PM
Hey Woopy

Awesome work with the film. ;]  I have had some people in the past say that the film is an inaccurate representation and other things. Well, you have taken it to some next level stuff.  =]

I bought the Radio Shack voltage converter for $42. I ripped it out of the package and immediately pried it apart. Ya should have seen me at Christmas as a child. =0  ;]

Here is a couple pics.

I measured the idle current for the 4.5v and 12v setting with an input voltage of 13.17v

4.5v    11.7ma
12v     23.6ma

The input cap is 450uf 16v  and the output is 220uf 25v.

Should work eh? 


Well soon we may have working Gabriel and Romero devices going. Its a beautiful thing. ;]

Ill be showing some multi core stuff soon also. It seems that Mav has posted today  things that indicate that the Gabriel transformer is just a multi core inductor and the function is the same as having an extra core on a secondary winding.

Well how does everyone feel today, about where we are in the quest for ou?  ;]

You all are doing great. ;D

Magsluvinit

You donated $42 to Rat Shack for that ?  C'mon Mags have you got too much money?  Okay, just had to tease a bit but I think they over rated that if they are claiming 2.5 amps since the DC-DC converter chips is rated max at 1.6 amps and nothing in those pics looks like it would handle much more than that. 

  I think what would be better is one of the DC-DC converters with an LM2596 in it and there are a bunch of them on fleaBay for around $5 to $10 and fully adjustable.  They are components just on a PCB so not in a box but then neither is yours ... now.  :D   The LM2596 is rated either 3 Amps but it is definitely beefier than the H34063AP.  There's another LM259x something that I think is 5 Amps but don't remember the last number. 

conradelektro

@skeptics: it is always advisable to be skeptic, but soon there will be replications by builders who always tell the truth and many questions will be answered.

Therefore it is of no use to speculate endlessly about Romero's device. Only he might know what he did and may be, once there are replications, he will join the discussion again.

My impression from what I have seen so far:

Lidmotor's observation, that the coil pairs add up and therefore produce a higher Voltage than one pair of coils alone, seems to be very important. This would also explain what the travelling occultations are all about (they lift the voltage of the generated electricity while reducing cogging).

I am not so sure about the biasing magnets. May be trying to find the right "induction factor" for the coils would be better (core material, number of windings, dimensions of the coils in relation to the magnets on the rotor).

Greetings, Conrad

lanenal

Quote from: webby1 on May 20, 2011, 12:59:37 AM
I will preface this with that I have enough to drink to be honest with my feelings.... and concerns.

I have a problem, the problem is that in the first video from R when he disconnected the battery, the volt meter and amp meter were showing some kind of value,

now this would, for almost everybody, say *fake*, but I have SEEN a one legged reading just like this, and this is what gives me great discomfort.  I can NOT explain these readings.

I have been trying very hard to see if R was faking it, maybe too skeptical but I NEED to be that way or else there is something that I am missing.

Franken Motor gives me these readings when I have it tuned to the ALMOST self run, that is, it self runs with no appearant depletion from the caps for about 3 minutes and then it cyclically depletes the caps until stop, and this is by far NOT what I have been taught<sp>.

Franken motor takes a few "experts" values and turns them 90 degrees.  I know this because I had an expert look at it first and THEN I turned it on,,,, silence,,,, that said enough, and here I see R getting those same funny readings on his meter.

It seems there are two strange things happened: 1) the input current reading remained above 0.9A a little while after it turned off; 2) the input voltage was first halved, then gradually dropped to zero in a time interval of about 40 seconds.

I will try to give my explanation.

The reading of the input current drops to zero with a time lag, which can be explained by the way digital multimeters respond to changes (the A/D converter is not working in a continuous mode). If you watch at time 1:21, you will see that the voltage rises with a time lag after the battery is connected. Remember that the measured voltage and current were not flat, but rather fluctuates constantly, there is probably a built-in smoother in the digital multimeter as well to obtain a stable reading.

At 10:00 the input voltage reading is 5.95 and falling. I noticed even into 10:28, the input voltage reading is 2.12V, and still dropping. At 10:33, reading is 1.72, dropping. I think that's because the rotor is still rotating, but decelerating...the induced voltage is picked up by the driving coils, and that's what was measured there I think.

Hopefully this explains the reading anomalies discovered by you.