Muller Dynamo

[e2matrix]

I have to agree!

Here we are 3 weeks into the build and all sorts of theories and diversions but the basic build criteria not addressed.

The first observation is that the RPM does not alter when the device is run in it's rather narrow load window. In fact the only time the RPM changes is when the voltage to the drive coils is lowered, or an out of range load connected.

For this to happen means that the generator portion is lenzless!

Until we find out how to build a lenzless generator (dynamo) we are all "up the creek"

I have not achieved this in my build. If those of you who know how to do this would post their results it would certainly further this forum.

I speak of agamendon, Ben maybe?, Peter L, who say such things as, "when half the load moves back into the generator..."  etc etc

Ron

While I think you've probably thought out your build quite well maybe if you post a picture or short video someone else here might see something you missed.  Or maybe it's just a matter of that extensive tuning Romero referred to.  What kind of results have you gotten?  Scope shots?   I have a feeling this build will take a tenacious mindset.... 

[konehead]

In the Romero build and looper in my mind, its ALL ABOUT THE MAGNETS BEHIND THE CORES everything else in the design and build are good, but those magnets are what is the key to it all to get it to loop lenz-free...

he said himself he had no chance to loop unitl he had those magnets there...so plan on spending lots of hours tuning the distance and strength of those magnets and how they will make the ferrite cores react.

I finally got increase in speed in small and and not very pretty test 5 coil-positon test rig I made already with magnets behind the ferrite cores so it is confirmed for me at least already it works as described....took me three different tries, and mabye 5 or 6 hrs of tunign the magnets, and findige right magnets behind cores  to  finally getting  it right o its so its confirmed (not condemned) in my mind...

heres how it works to make "lenz-free" rotation:

normally  when you pass a magnet past a  core and coil, the magnet will polarize the core/coil like this:

NmagnetS > Ncore/coilS

everyone should agree to this I think.

now when the rotor magnet passes past the core,  the rotor magent wants to be pulled back to the core since it was polarized into attraction-mode to the rotor magnet - an dmore power you make in coil, more the rotor magnet want to pull back to the core...(rotational lenz-lug)

what the proper tuning of those magnets in back of cores can do (through the distance and strength of them compared power of the "polarity-strength" of the core), is make it so the core will create power normally in the coil upon approach-of-magnet but when the magnet pulls away, suddenly that magnet will flip the polarity of the core backwards and give a shove to the rotor magnet, in the proper direction, and not pull it back...

so you need to find the perfect balance of magnet-strength and distance of magnet behind the core - so not too much "opposite polarity" to it, or on approach the rotor magnet will have to shove itself hard through the opposite-polarity magnetic flux field created vby the
helper" magnets and you get lots of extra draw....and too much distance between helper magnet and core, and the core will not change polarity at all when rotor magnet starts to pass by and so the more power you make in coil, the more it wants to pull the rotor magnets back to the core and the more "rotational lenz llug" you will get with the more power you make.

Another way around all this is to use aircores, and short the coil at the peak period, when rotormagnet is right on top (TDC) of coil and stuff the voltage (not power at this stage) into collectro-cap and knock collector cap into load later on (now power at this stage #2); when coil is disconnected from this collector cap.....you could do this with Romeros thing too - each of the 9 coil positions would have its own coil-shorting circuit into caps....(another story)

HEY!

Does anyone know if Romero had hlepr-agnet BEHIND his drive coil cores?

I cant find this info anywhere about that.

[e2matrix]

I tried a magnet behind the coil in an SSG and noticed a speed up at a certain point with the magnet there also. 

konehead,  While Romero did say he was short some magnets from checking the video again just now I don't see any magnets on top of what appears to be the two drive coils (based on location of the driver boards). 

[nvisser]

Another way around all this is to use aircores, and short the coil at the peak period, when rotormagnet is right on top (TDC) of coil and stuff the voltage (not power at this stage) into collectro-cap and knock collector cap into load later on (now power at this stage #2); when coil is disconnected from this collector cap.....you could do this with Romeros thing too - each of the 9 coil positions would have its own coil-shorting circuit into caps....(another story)

Hi Kone
Is it not so that the sine wave peaks of a generator coil appears just before and after TDC and that the sine wave cross through the 0V line at TDC.  So the way I see it it must be shorted at that peaks and not at TDC.

[d3x0r]

At the point where the coil is centered between two rotor magnets, the stator magnet will push thru to the opposing coil because the field between the two rotor magnets flows in the same direction as the stator magnets at this point.

That's not true... the core near the rotor magnet becomes more like the rotor than like the stator's polarity.  The stator plates both oppose the rotor. 

Actually after rereading that I'm entirely confused by what you mean.

It may be required to raise the stator coils away from the rotor and then raise or lower the stator magnet to get the correct response.

Sure would be handy if we had cool goggles that could see the fields to measure this other than by feel.