Muller Dynamo

[i_ron]

hi Ron

which build criteria do you believe have not been addressed by the video and the questions answered by Romero?


the motor drive is stabilised by the DC converter -  if the load is increased or decreased, within limits, then the converter will compensate for the change and attempt to keep the drive level constant (& therefore the speed unchanged)


hasn't Romero just shown us how to build such a generator?

he hasn't given us much detail on tuning the device - but that's a different issue!


Romero reported an Efficiency of 105% with all FWBR o/ps paralled into the buffer cap (and no stator mags)

his data showed that adding the stator mags increased the Efficiency to 200%

i think these two facts alone tell us where we need to focus our attention in order to achieve similar results to him


all the best
np


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

Time to take the rose colored glasses off and address my question. What is the "bit more"?

Romero did not tell us what makes it lenzless

Read again what he said about our efforts....

"Only a few will understand!"

Romero, post 1398

I have been looking arround here and folowing most of the attempts to replicate the device I have presented and all I can see is that most of you are going in the wrong direction.

In my previous posts I have really told you all but beople can see only what they are familiar with.
You all see magnets rotating in front of the coils... , at 1240rpm we get too low voltage...maybe at 1034 we get better... that is just an ordinary alternator/dynamo but this one was a bit more than that.
If you are considering to build a very efficient dynamo then you are on the right track if you want to investigate more then use your brains.
Here are many people very clever but I think that is their handicap (not all but some)

There is a lot more to be discovered and maybe change or add to the existing laws of physics.
For all who are not really seeing a bit more in here is no point to spend your time and money, wait until those few will manage to understand and you will have more details.

Ron

[plengo]

...but the extra force destroyed my little bearing.
...

Great work Rod. I posted on the other thread my findings about the bearings from hard drive or VCR. They will not work with those magnets and the necessary distance from the cores. While I was playing with my rotor and trying to position it to the correct place I noticed the tremendous forces involved and only a real shaft with 2 points of stable support will handle, specially when this start spinning at 2000+ rpm.

In the beginning it may looks like it is working but eventually the rotor will wobble and break everything. Not worthy. Go for the a real shaft and strong bearings.

Fausto.

[i_ron]

While I think you've probably thought out your build quite well maybe if you post a picture or short video someone else here might see something you missed.  Or maybe it's just a matter of that extensive tuning Romero referred to.  What kind of results have you gotten?  Scope shots?   I have a feeling this build will take a tenacious mindset....

E2, this is not the coils used in the 'build' but a couple of test coils, the ferrite one from way back, the somaloy one fresh made.

Like everybody i thought the magnet on the end of the core was the be all to end all. But I suspect that the magnet is just compensating for the inefficiencies of ferrite.

The big ferrite coil is 28 X36 mm. It is using the "core should extend out the back" principle.

http://www.totallyamped.net/adams/index.html

Around page 4 or 5

I get 1 watt from this coil. With a stack equal to the rotor stack length the output goes up to 1.8 watts...nearly double, right?

But have a look at the new somaloy coil...it is machined from a piece of 1 1/2 PVC. The coil is only 12 mm wide, 240 turns, the part under the red tape. With the same gap, rotor, RPM, I get 4.68 watts. With one 1/8 thick magnet I get 5 watts.  The effect seems to go away with better cores.

Ron

[nul-points]

Time to take the rose colored glasses off and address my question. What is the "bit more"?

Romero did not tell us what makes it lenzless

Read again what he said about our efforts....

"Only a few will understand!"


Ron

Ron

i've honestly attempted to answer your question with those 2 sentences i highlighted in bold, earlier

could you honestly answer my question (about what more build info you need)? - it's not a trick question

i wouldn't place any store on any information which Romero has felt constrained to release since the evening of May 10

we're on our own now - build to all the info that we can see - or that has been given in answer to our early questions

after that, we're into the murky world of 'tuning'

i believe that not only are there very few people with real experience of what Romero discovered - i also believe that Romero himself just 'stumbled' upon this achievement

i'll be happy to be proved wrong


i'd also be more than happy to have such an elegant build as you - but then as khabe would be the first to point out, i'm just a hopeless incompetent, so my device won't even reach the starting line! 

all the best
np

[EDIT: BTW  Ron, have you tested with multi-turn or Litz winds on more than one stator coil position fed thro' separate FWBRs into the o/p cap?]


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

[i_ron]

Ron

i've honestly attempted to answer your question with those 2 sentences i highlighted in bold, earlier


all the best
np

[EDIT: BTW  Ron, have you tested with multi-turn or Litz winds on more than one stator coil position fed thro' separate FWBRs into the o/p cap?]


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

NP,

No I haven't tried Litz wire ...yet I will put that on the to do list,

Thanks

Ron