Muller Dynamo

[i_ron]

Hi Ron,

To quote you"But have a look at the new somaloy coil...it is machined from a piece of 1 1/2 PVC. The coil is only 12 mm wide, 240 turns, the part under the red tape. With the same gap, rotor, RPM, I get 4.68 watts. With one 1/8 thick magnet I get 5 watts.  The effect seems to go away with better cores."

Is that a hollow core of somaloy and if so, which type.  I know they started off with the 500 series, then the 700 series, then the 1000 series and it continues.  Is the gray cover material under the red tape just part of the machined PVC?  When you say 4-5 watts, what is the rectified voltage and current, gap, picture of your generator?  I apologize for all the questions but just need to know as I go along.  Also, your source for the somaloy?  When you say effect goes away with better cores, what type of cores are you referring to?  What effect, I haven't had much coffee this morning so a bit dense.

Thanks
Ben K4ZEP

Thanks for the interest Ben,

I peeled the tape back, it keeps the wire on but also hides the fact that it was just scramble wound, lol

Numbers for just this coil and the R rotor at 1140 RPM and 1.5 mm gap are:

1) no bias magnet...9.77 volts @ .48 amps  (FWB, 1000 mfd)

2) one 3mm thick neo, 1,5 mm plastic spacer, 10 volts @ ,5 amps

Sorry, I no idea what the Somaloy grade is. I worked closely with Phil Woods for many years and the somaloy cores were a gift.

Ron

Edit: no mag numbers corrected to both the same gap
       note too that there is a 1mm ledge holding the core in...so add that to    the gap number... total gap = 2.5 mm

[Tudi]

i was also thinking about this top bottom coil alignment + the way the coils are put in series.
The picture is not perfectly vertical ( see the rotor axe ) and your lines are not proper.
There was a post here that if you connect 2 coils properly you can eliminate some of the coil magnetization effects. What if the coils are not connected as any electrician would do it ( shorted ) ? what if by accident the current is supposed to cancel in the 2 coils but for some reason there is some leftover ( some peak signal type, it was not present in romeroUK oscilator shot though)?

[David70]

anyone tried to wire the coils in paralllel?

[k4zep]

Thanks for the interest Ben,

I peeled the tape back, it keeps the wire on but also hides the fact that it was just scramble wound, lol

Numbers for just this coil and the R rotor at 1140 RPM and 1.5 mm gap are:

1) no bias magnet...9.77 volts @ .48 amps  (FWB, 1000 mfd)

2) one 3mm thick neo, 1,5 mm plastic spacer, 10 volts @ ,5 amps

Sorry, I no idea what the Somaloy grade is. I worked closely with Phil Woods for many years and the somaloy cores were a gift.

Ron

Edit: no mag numbers corrected to both the same gap
       note too that there is a 1mm ledge holding the core in...so add that to    the gap number... total gap = 2.5 mm

Impressive output, thanks Ron!

Ben K4ZEP

[e2matrix]

@e2matrix,

                 That's the ticket! Those are the puppies. They link end to end, but of course this arrangement alters the fields, I think reducing the force field protruding from the ends. That's how they worked for me. They are linked side to side to form a bundle in the picture and also end to end. You don't want to increase the width, just the length, so the diameter of the linked magnets is the same as a single one and twice the length.

These diametric magnet core coils have to be adjusted for maximum output, which requires reading voltage. The beauty of the Muller dynamo is the platform, so adjustment for one should be good for all. Anticipate an enormous increase in output over Romero's ferrite core's, along with a drop in input coupled with acceleration of the rotor. Tape stuck back to back, should keep the sticky part off the magnet, and wraped around should be enough to keep the magnets in place top and bottem. I think the coupled magnets may bounce a tiny almost imperceptable amount, perhaps half a millimeter, inside the core. Enough to produce a mild vibration. We should X-Ray the field of these coupled tubes! I call the effect "Lenz Propulsion".

I predict a very large increase in output, on an order of maybe so much as 50x, so be prepared to deal with the incredible amount of extra output power! Follow this simple math to understand why the output's so large:

20,000 rpm's times 8 magnets divided by 60 seconds, times 1/2 millimeter twice equals over 2666 mm per sec or the distance the two diametric magnets would travel in 1 second through an output coil the same size would equal around 8 feet! Imagine the power those 2 coupled magnets would generate traveling 8 feet per second up and down an output coil that length! Multiply that times 14, and calculate the output. It's superior to nuclear fission. Perhaps a metal clip would work better then tape over the long run. It might also help to reverse half the rotor magnets for a N S N S arrangement.

This sounds great!  But I'm not that sharp on all this like some people here.  What I don't understand if you have this looped and it's putting out a lot more power this way why NO ONE else here has even responded about this.  Has everyone missed your post?  Do you have this built and tested and this is not just theory?  Those diametric magnets small enough to fit in the cores are cheap and easy enough to get. 
     Can you post a pic or vid of your setup?  Is the rest of it the same 9 coil 8 magnet setup? 
   
    ANYONE?   Does what synchro1 is saying not sound important?  LOOPED.  Up to 50 times more power?