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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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Shane Jackson

Quote from: wattsup on June 18, 2011, 09:12:49 AM
@ALL

I finally figured out the solution to the Romero puzzle.

Also posted here:
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=862.msg14898#msg14898

The circuit that drives the drive coils is doing what? Pulsing power on for a given time regulated by the hall sensor to energize a drive coil pair? What if it does not do that. What if the power is always on the coil and the sensor pulse turns it off. Better still what if one Drive coil pair is always off while the other is always on. Man oh man. That's it!!!!!!!!!

D22 Top magnet is attracted by the coil that is always on gets to the sensor to turn off the field while it exits. Sling Shot.
D11 Bottom Drive coil is always off so when the magnet gets on the sensor the drive is energized pulling the magnet in and as it gets in, the sensor is out so the magnet can exit.

D22 Always on. Sensor shuts it off. It only has to shut it for a short period to free itself from the attraction.
D11 Always off. Sensor turns it on. It has a longer reach to enter under the drive with force then release itself from the sensor.

This fits both the back and forth phenomena before the wheel is nudged manually and the clockwise rotation.
The circuitry change required goes above my acumen.

Always on and always off (AOAO), if at 50% duty, will make no difference energy-wise. But motive-wise, it could make all the difference.

Stop everything. This is it. Guys with wheels that do not make this change will be wasting their time trying to compensate in so many other wrong ways.

wattsup

Someone has too look again at the circuit to make the modification, and it ain't gonna be me. Have fun.

If Tesla was here, he would probably say,

3 drives
6 magnets
9 coils

or would it be 3 drives.........but that will be for another day. lol

Sounds good and all but would M1 not be more attracted to D22 than M8 as it is closer?? I think in order to achieve this you would need multiple hall sensors and/or a smart controller to fire the coils.

poynt99

Arthurs,

Nice diagram and good testing!

It's a pleasure.

.99
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k4zep

Quote from: Arthurs on June 18, 2011, 09:25:24 AM
Hi Kone bolt and all:
I am currently experimenting in accordance with the following circuit, Coil resistance of 2 ohms each Generation,
C1 and R1 resonance, all of which I value in accordance with circuit diagram to adjust.
C2 and C3 phase, I still value in accordance with circuit diagram to adjust.

No load rotor speed is 1200rpm
When the C2 and C3 4.7uF, the speed is almost no decline
Load of 100 ohms, the output voltage: 7V, output current: 70mA.

When the C2 and C3 to 50uF, the speed down to 940rpm,
Load of 100 ohms, the output voltage: 10V, output current: 105mA. (C3 sometimes when not used)

Adjustments in any state regardless of C1 and R1, the rotor speed and output are not changed.

Overall: There is no miracle!

How can I do?

Thank you!

Hi Arthurs,

Nice work.  Will test it on my unit later today!  Thank you.

Respectfully
Ben K4ZEP

wattsup

Quote from: Shane Jackson on June 18, 2011, 09:50:01 AM
Sounds good and all but would M1 not be more attracted to D22 than M8 as it is closer?? I think in order to achieve this you would need multiple hall sensors and/or a smart controller to fire the coils.

No it won't because it is being pushed out by M5 entering under D11.

This works. It also works exactly as such when the power is turned on and the rotor just goes back and forth in the same radius. Any working solution must work for both the back and forth and the clockwise rotation. Given the components, where they are located, AOAO is the only way it will work. And, needless to say AOAO is the only method not tried yet.

So simple yet so out of the box. I am not sure if Romero even knew what the real reason for his wheel was. Otherwise his obvious willingness to share, he would have talked about this long ago.

But this is step one. If step one is OK, then we can move on to step two. If any of the steps is not right, going further is in vain. You will be barking up the wrong tree for months. Only a logical progression will work.

wattsup

bolt

Quote from: Arthurs on June 18, 2011, 09:25:24 AM
Hi Kone bolt and all:
I am currently experimenting in accordance with the following circuit, Coil resistance of 2 ohms each Generation,
C1 and R1 resonance, all of which I value in accordance with circuit diagram to adjust.
C2 and C3 phase, I still value in accordance with circuit diagram to adjust.

No load rotor speed is 1200rpm
When the C2 and C3 4.7uF, the speed is almost no decline
Load of 100 ohms, the output voltage: 7V, output current: 70mA.

When the C2 and C3 to 50uF, the speed down to 940rpm,
Load of 100 ohms, the output voltage: 10V, output current: 105mA. (C3 sometimes when not used)

Adjustments in any state regardless of C1 and R1, the rotor speed and output are not changed.

Overall: There is no miracle!

How can I do?

Thank you!

Take OUT  C1 and C2 and leave C3 as the adjustor.  Put scope leads across C3 and the other channel across R1.

Short the DC side of the bridge out and work only on the AC side for now. You will know when you are in tune because the volts and the amps will peak very high compared to other values.  If the phase will not go out of phase try  reversing the coils pair.  Try winding more coils using say 500 turns of 24 awg  NOT litz wire and keep doing stuff like this until you see a "HOLY CRAP"!!! moment on your scope shots. You need to see amazing high VARS before you open the short into the dump cap. Try winding bifialr coils two strands of 24 AWG or something pretty thin wire then cross the ends just like a joule thief.  You need everything to go out of phase BETWEEN the coils and WITHIN the coils themselves to stop current flowing because  current = lugging.

Only when you see amazing  VARS with no lugging open the DC pathway.