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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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Cap-Z-ro

Although, I am no expert in the field of magnetism, if you'll pardon the pun...the diagram submitted by @poynty appears to indicate a torque/action/energy/ potential within the 'bloch wall.'

I could be wrong like Bill tho...just tossing things out there, you just never know, it may be a ball someone can run with.

Regards...


mondrasek

Here is some data for anyone interested.  It is input and output measurements on the 3 single filer coil pairs run in parallel to the dump cap with various loads.  All measurements were taken with the same DMM.

poynt99

Quote from: hoptoad on July 10, 2011, 08:58:40 AM
In the real macroscopic world, where EE's design and make things, and theorists take a back seat, the term, bloch wall, is readily accepted as referring to the "null magnetic region" in a magnet where N + S vectors are equal, and cancel out. Also often referred to as the magnet's neutral region.
This is a misnomer all too many believe. There is only one macroscopic vector inside a standard magnet.

The magnetic field measured outside a magnet in the center may appear weak compared to the end-pole locations, but this is not because of any vector cancellation or equality. This area does not constitute a "Bloch Wall Region", despite any general misuse of the term.

It would be a true shame if "real-world" EE's contributed to this misnomer. But, as most may not be well trained in magnetics, this is a possibility. Don't take this the wrong way, but I would expect (and hope) that anyone working in magnetics as a profession, or as a serious researcher using magnets and ferromagnetic materials, would be better informed.

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On my site I describe the bloch wall as the magnet neutral zone to make this distinction.
Call it a "neutral zone" if you wish, but it should not be called a "Bloch Wall". This only perpetuates the misnomer, and facilitates a misunderstanding of the magnetic field in and around a magnet.

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xenomorphlabs

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on July 10, 2011, 09:17:41 AM
Although, I am no expert in the field of magnetism, if you'll pardon the pun...the diagram submitted by @poynty appears to indicate a torque/action/energy/ potential within the 'block wall.'

I could be wrong like Bill tho...just tossing things out there, you just never know, it may be a ball someone can run with.

Regards...

It's quantum mechanics, the magnetic neutral region does not exert a net outside force to let's say a piece of metal, but the magnetic domains re-align there.
The process of "pumping" the Bloch wall (or however you wanna call it) is assumed to create negative entropy however. Example : "Kromrey Converter"

Cap-Z-ro

Quote from: xenomorphlabs on July 10, 2011, 09:42:01 AM
It's quantum mechanics, the magnetic neutral region does not exert a net outside force to let's say a piece of metal, but the magnetic domains re-align there.
The process of "pumping" the Bloch wall is assumed to create negative entropy however.


To me it seems there is a little twist in there that needs to be explored by someone with more experience and instrumentation than I currently possess.

Thanks for acknowledging that aspect...it may possibly lead somewhere.

Regards...