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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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Magluvin

Quote from: chalamadad on July 11, 2011, 05:23:02 AM
Thanks Mags, will try that.

But I am not sure it is desirable to keep the coil on longer in any case and I will tell you why: I observed Romero's rig once again and I came to the conclusion that he uses one attracting and one repelling driving coil. Remember he is using smaller magnets on the outer edge of the rotor wit one of the halls? That is the one repelling. You can tell that if you see the rotor spinning clockwise. The hall that fires with the side magnets is mounted just a little forward direction of the coil so it must repel. The really interesting thing about this is that he needed the smaller magnets to have a smaller pulse width. Why doing the additional work of mounting all the smaller magnets to the side if he could just use the large neogens as with the other hall? Timing here must be important and in this case the pulse needs to be small.

Hey Chal

Yeah, try it..  And if your concerns on timing are an issue, then shorten the timing.  ;]  less in that way, but the same rpm.  ;]

It could be that the wee mags are for short pulse as it gives a desired input.

The other driver coils?  Romero may be doing something else there. ???

I personally would run the rotor on each coil set alone to see what the difference is.  Should they(the 2 driver sets)both be timed from the perimeter of the rotor? OR, is he shorting the other coil set?  ;)

Running each alone to see how the drive the rotor may be key to finding this out. If the other coil set(the hall triggered by the larger mags) does not drive the rotor as well, or maybe better, what can we think about this? Should we time them both from the perimeter, or from the larger mags..   

See where im going with this?  ;]  Something is not quite right about what we are told, I believe.   Maybe Im wrong. So why the difference in drive conditions?

If your motor setup is like Romeros, as in where the halls are triggered and such, then it is an easy test to try. ;]


Mags




chalamadad

Quote from: mondrasek on July 11, 2011, 01:06:37 PM
Can you please confirm the inductance of your tested bifilar and unifilar coils?  Also, do they have the same number of turns and are they the same size?  And finally, were they adjusted to be at equal distances from the rotor?

At 12V input (0.8 Amps) I am getting a speed of just below 2500 RPM with one coil attracting and one repelling. Unfortunately I cannot make the repelling pulse smaller since I don't have the smaller magnets mounted.

All coils are made handwound of 15 stranded litz wire, same size, est. same distance, 200 turns for the unifilars. Output: 4.8 Volts.
The bifilars are made of the unifilars, separated into 8/7 strands and interconnected. (Making them 400 turns) Output: 11.61 Volts. That is more than double so even if you calculate in the additional turns there is gain in voltage.

Sorry, I don't have no inductance meter available yet.


baroutologos

I was staring my Romero replication being short of OU and thinking what i do not do right? (even though romero urged me not replicate his device and wait for others  to come succesful first. No luck so far i guess)

Its is misbuild? Mis tunned? Misfortune?
...

I was watching news broadcast yesterday, and there was a weird video of a little somewhat fat Italian boy that had the peculiarity his body to attract any ferromagnetic material like a magnet... Particularly, the boy stood up somewhat naive, and a physician put spoons metal paltes, forks and anything ferrous to boys body and those stick like a magnet.

The story goes, scientists are unable to formulate a theory so far and the boy will be further examined...
...

This put me in considerable thinking. What if Romero's device is just an ordinary device that materializes something else. What if the rotor, stator etc are just the physical things, the body,  whereas the energy that animates the device does not come from magnets , resonance, Bloch walls but from a far more paranormal cause.

Do not exclude anything..




darkwanderer

Quote from: baroutologos on July 11, 2011, 02:02:54 PM
I was staring my Romero replication being short of OU and thinking what i do not do right? (even though romero urged me not replicate his device and wait for others  to come succesful first. No luck so far i guess)

Its is misbuild? Mis tunned? Misfortune?
...

I was watching news broadcast yesterday, and there was a weird video of a little somewhat fat Italian boy that had the peculiarity his body to attract any ferromagnetic material like a magnet... Particularly, the boy stood up somewhat naive, and a physician put spoons metal paltes, forks and anything ferrous to boys body and those stick like a magnet.

The story goes, scientists are unable to formulate a theory so far and the boy will be further examined...
...

This put me in considerable thinking. What if Romero's device is just an ordinary device that materializes something else. What if the rotor, stator etc are just the physical things, the body,  whereas the energy that animates the device does not come from magnets , resonance, Bloch walls but from a far more paranormal cause.

Do not exclude anything..

Hi,

I think It's mistuning.Because romero didn't say how to tune anything.We don't know what we have to tune in certain situations.I believe that's the main problem for now...

Regards...

xenomorphlabs

Quote from: chalamadad on July 11, 2011, 01:50:30 PM
At 12V input (0.8 Amps) I am getting a speed of just below 2500 RPM with one coil attracting and one repelling. Unfortunately I cannot make the repelling pulse smaller since I don't have the smaller magnets mounted.

All coils are made handwound of 15 stranded litz wire, same size, est. same distance, 200 turns for the unifilars. Output: 4.8 Volts.
The bifilars are made of the unifilars, separated into 8/7 strands and interconnected. (Making them 400 turns) Output: 11.61 Volts. That is more than double so even if you calculate in the additional turns there is gain in voltage.

Sorry, I don't have no inductance meter available yet.

Did you try to load the coils also behind the rectifier? Like with a resistor or small lamp and measure the current?
I have the feeling that due to the increased capacitance of a Tesla-bifilar coil the relationship between voltage and current is also shifted.
At the least one would have to expect double the DC resistance of the coil due to a doubling in coil length (200->400 turns)
I happen to have the same kind of Litz like you are using and will also do some tests.

The main problem i still see in the current squeezed out of the generator coils.
Romero had 7 pairs of generator coils that had to produce at least the input current of 800mA-1000mA at 15 Volts, for the looping aspect assume 1500 mA.
That would be 214mA per pair or 112mA per individual coil.
I don't recall seeing any (non-telekinetic :D) replicator reaching such current, but i can have easily missed that.