Muller Dynamo

[xenomorphlabs]

@rawbush: Excellent!

And you know what? I believe I understand now what it is! The info has been available right from the beginning!!! Forget about the coils for now! What we wants is the core being CLOSE to saturation. That is what the biasing magnets do. In this situation we have the biggest field. The rotor magnet is attracted to the coil (this results in speedup), is being pulled close to the core and now it happens: The core is being saturated with the help of the rotor magnet (see coercivity of coil materials). At this specific point it is killing the magnetic flux, thus no current flow and no lenz drag. The rotor magnet can escape the coil freely and there is (virtually) unlimited acceleration. "Let the magnets do the work" and this is it! We were having it at our fingertips all the time, see image below!

Now if you want to loop you don't want rotor speed alone, but also get some power out. You'll have to find the balance between acceleration coils and power output coils. Of course the power coils will slow down the rotor but the acceleration coils can compensate the drag and keep the system running. Still it is a good idea to generate higher voltage in favor of high current, so using bifilar coils are a good idea anyway to get this looped. But the heart of the system is the timed saturation/coercivity of the coil cores.

P.S.: We're gonna make it!!! 

You might have a point there.
Romero's cores are also remarkably small compared to the big magnets.
I also remember that i haven't been able to understand why his rotor speeded up in the pre-muller video as he didnt seem to have any biasing magnet on his generator coil.
There was i think the info out, that that coil had a mumetal core, a material which saturates pretty easily and would support your theory.

Plus as i mentioned, i saw a speed-up with using a much bigger magnet to bias. For that coil core i also used the small 6mm ferrite.
With my bigger 10mm ferrit core coils, i haven't seen that happen yet. Can maybe mean nothing though.

The question is though if a saturated core, deteriorates the output.
I gotta educate myself on this now.

[Rawbush]

What do you mean with 5 wire coil set?
The bucking coil pair normally has two ends and maybe 4 wires alltogether if you count the interconnecting wires.
How is that connected?

It is a penta filler (5 wires in parallel twisted) home made litz.  Hooked up like this - all five wire ends connected at the beginning and ends in parallel, like one thick wire. Then by changing the connections between them adding/bucking. Does this make any sence. I will try to take a video with the phone later today.
Peace
rawbush

[chalamadad]

Also review Romero's waveform. There is a sudden change of direction somewhere in the middle. This must be the point when saturation occurs!

I am not sure about this but with the sudden breakdown of the field what then spikes might be displacement current.

Edit: Remember with displacement current there just change in magnetic flux, no flow of charge and thus no drag. But it's properties are in effect equal to "conventional current". So we can use it!

[konehead]

my best theory and explanation on backing "regauging"; magnets is the decription the guy who "discovered" it years ago told me on phone (he gave idea to Bedini too and Bedini has the adjustable magnets on the back of his cores in his motor-patent and JB called him to thnak him too he said)
anyways this guy "John Stout" explained it to me in "repulsive-motor coils" mode but flip everything around if you want for attractive motor coils mode or imagine the induced power caused by magnet as the pulsed power feed to coils in thinking of it in "genrator-coil mode":
so, his explanation was with coil vs coil type of motor and having regauging magnet behind, or next to, the stator coil - this make very dramatic speed up, aroun d X 4 rpm (!!) ...I found this by accident in my small n-n coil "Gray" motors long time ago playing around with magnets....and didnt know WHY the acceleration and increased power - but JS explained it to me couple years later:

coil against coil n-n gives you power obviously to rotate rotor with coils on it...
but on approach of NEXT rotor coil to stator coil, the coils will "STAY" in their polarity they were jsut energized at.
so you get a backwards clash when coils approach, that the momentum of the rotor has to ride right through and you get lots of rotational loss.
IF you put a magnet nest to your stator, it will FLIP the polarity of the rotor-cores, and resulting in the flip of the COILS around it too, a bit later.
One direction of magnet will slow things one will speed up only two choices...

And, not only does the magnet get rid of that hurdle of N-N magnet fields, it also makes fro a FREE power stroke as rotor is flipped over to S and stator remains N
(in this motor design, the regauging magnet flips the ROTOR, not the stator cores as the rotor coils move past the regauaign magnet postioned next to stator coil but not affecting stator coils)
OK so how this applies to Romero is you have the strength of the rotor magnet, and the strength of the stator core after being energized in polarity by rotor magnet, and you have the strength of the bakcing/regauging magnet behind the stator core, so s just find balance between all so that backing/regaiguin magnet does its work correctly.
I think any dramatic speed up anyone finds will be becasue you have added a free power storke in  what was normally a CLASH, or a PULLBACK, has now flipped over to a PULL, or a PUSH...so you get two things good - get rid of the against-rotation "lenz lug" that occurs and made even worse when more and more power is made,,,that is good thing no1 and you also get a free power-pull or push in its place - that is good thing no2
I agree I think we are going to get there now...keep going and dont stop like romeros rig does eh... and especially dont stop to argue - that is what "they" want you to do...

[xenomorphlabs]

@Konehead: Thanks for sharing that info

This makes a lot of sense.
I just wonder why some experimenters don't manage to see a speed-up with Bias magnets and some do and i tend to believe that the core saturation can really be an additional factor.
The only time i had seen a slight tiny speed-up on a coil without biasing magnet was with a similar type of coil that Romero used in his pre-Muller video (Micro wave oven fan coil), but mine still had the laminate core inside and measured at 0.75H which is a considerable inductance.

It looks like people will have to take a look at the Hysteresis curve dynamically. Then this speculation will prove either right or wrong.

The positive thing is that the effect can be established by several people, it is secondary now to find an explanation )

@Chalamadad:

This is interesting concerning the core saturation:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/2SGen/indexen.htm

In particular this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91WVF3P1c6E&feature=player_embedded

It is a penta filler (5 wires in parallel twisted) home made litz.  Hooked up like this - all five wire ends connected at the beginning and ends in parallel, like one thick wire. Then by changing the connections between them adding/bucking. Does this make any sence. I will try to take a video with the phone later today.
Peace
rawbush

Or just draw a connection diagram please.