Muller Dynamo

[konehead]

Hey Avalon
go back to the first 100 pages or so of this thread and read all about it - Romero gets it "overunity" at first...and thats pretty good in itself - loading coils makes the rotor spin faster - also very good in itself...none of that is fake - he just loads the coils and measures power compared to input power and takes video of it too...
But Romero cant loop it, since the speed-up effect under load, means more power is made from the faster and faster rotation of the rotor magnets so it becomes sort of exponential-type power increase (how its supposed to be when working in overunity-mode)
Gyula steps in, and helps him out with the great DC-to-DC controller idea in order to control the output of Romeros machine ... Romero tries this out, and IT LOOPS...
he then continues to report about it,  and EVERYTIME anyone loops a self-sustaining anything, they get the VISIT...exaclty what happens to Romero - it took 8 days however in his case ( a little slow over there in England to respond?)....
Romeor only said it was fake ONCE, and this right after the visit from MIB agents whoever they were and that is statndard practice, to say its fake when its not -  it could save your life and Romeore was obviously scared you-know-what by the visit...also saying its fake when its not is perfect for the MIB agenda - this discredits all free erngy researchers in process (ss this guy is fake so they must all be)
and also discredits all the techinical iformation released to public (so we should ignore it eh!)...but really Romefo had no choice but to say that unless he wants to catch the bullet sure to come....i would too, if someon held gun next to me and my family...so would anybody uless they have some sort of acute martyr-syndrome peculiar to free energy.

the speed-up under load of the generator coils IS the effect that is most-important and many people have replecated it...inclulding me..."my take" is that it is the backing-magnets behind the coils and cores that cause the speed up under loading of coils, and the bakcing-magnets dont and shouldnt necesarrily be directly behind the cores of the coils.... I get speed up with loaded coils with the bakcing magnets in crazy and illogical positioning and strenghts to the gernator coils and cores....
If Romeore had never done it, I never would, 9the speed up under loading of genrator coils because of bakcing magnets) nore would anyone else most probably...so Romero is the pioneer here and give him all the credit and respect in the world for that ...
I think why people cannot easily replicate the looping -is that  eveyone assumes the magnet should go right behind the cores, but instead it is a "separate" effect going on, with the backing magnets actually reacting to the ROTOR magents, with the cores-reactions to backign magnets being a  secondary-force (my theory not necessarily fact just what I think is going on)...I call it Howard-Johnson effect because to get maximum speed up unler loading of coils, the backing-magnets behind the cores and coils will have a completley lillogical and very-different-for every-motor postioning (like how Howard Johnsons stator magnets look)
...so its lots of trial and error testing, to get the pseed up with the backing magnets....most people understandably, will  plop the backing-magnet right behind the cores, and call it "good"...but actually the backing-magnets have no logical potsitiong and is only found though lots of bench work...
the fact that this particular  technique of building a no-lenz generator (actually speed-up under load type of genrator, even better!)
has been "revealed" is more important than fact Romero made it run itself in video demonstration......making it run itself is really a good demo of overunity mostly is all it is and cant be argued since it runs itself  (unless you say it is fake! ha)
- and loopin always seems to get people in trouble from those other people who just dont want the world's economy flipped-over right now and want to continue status quo of oil, coal, nuclear. wind, solar means of making power....(too many jobs lost I guess)

[e2matrix]

Hi Juan, please to meet you, if you find the time and take a look at my MULLER solution as I am sure it will enlighten you 
http://www.view-tronics.com/mymindtwist/freeenergy/index.html
some parts photos...
http://picasaweb.google.com/sellier.bruno/MachineDeMullerParAPOC#

Very nice build!   I hope you got something that works for all your effort.   Are you able to get excess power or self run?

[avalon]

Hey Avalon
go back to the first 100 pages or so of this thread and read all about it - Romero gets it "overunity" at first...and thats pretty good in itself - loading coils makes the rotor spin faster - also very good in itself...none of that is fake - he just loads the coils and measures power compared to input power and takes video of it too...
But Romero cant loop it, since the speed-up effect under load, means more power is made from the faster and faster rotation of the rotor magnets so it becomes sort of exponential-type power increase (how its supposed to be when working in overunity-mode)
Gyula steps in, and helps him out with the great DC-to-DC controller idea in order to control the output of Romeros machine ... Romero tries this out, and IT LOOPS...
he then continues to report about it,  and EVERYTIME anyone loops a self-sustaining anything, they get the VISIT...exaclty what happens to Romero - it took 8 days however in his case ( a little slow over there in England to respond?)....
Romeor only said it was fake ONCE, and this right after the visit from MIB agents whoever they were and that is statndard practice, to say its fake when its not -  it could save your life and Romeore was obviously scared you-know-what by the visit...also saying its fake when its not is perfect for the MIB agenda - this discredits all free erngy researchers in process (ss this guy is fake so they must all be)
and also discredits all the techinical iformation released to public (so we should ignore it eh!)...but really Romefo had no choice but to say that unless he wants to catch the bullet sure to come....i would too, if someon held gun next to me and my family...so would anybody uless they have some sort of acute martyr-syndrome peculiar to free energy.

the speed-up under load of the generator coils IS the effect that is most-important and many people have replecated it...inclulding me..."my take" is that it is the backing-magnets behind the coils and cores that cause the speed up under loading of coils, and the bakcing-magnets dont and shouldnt necesarrily be directly behind the cores of the coils.... I get speed up with loaded coils with the bakcing magnets in crazy and illogical positioning and strenghts to the gernator coils and cores....
If Romeore had never done it, I never would, 9the speed up under loading of genrator coils because of bakcing magnets) nore would anyone else most probably...so Romero is the pioneer here and give him all the credit and respect in the world for that ...
I think why people cannot easily replicate the looping -is that  eveyone assumes the magnet should go right behind the cores, but instead it is a "separate" effect going on, with the backing magnets actually reacting to the ROTOR magents, with the cores-reactions to backign magnets being a  secondary-force (my theory not necessarily fact just what I think is going on)...I call it Howard-Johnson effect because to get maximum speed up unler loading of coils, the backing-magnets behind the cores and coils will have a completley lillogical and very-different-for every-motor postioning (like how Howard Johnsons stator magnets look)
...so its lots of trial and error testing, to get the pseed up with the backing magnets....most people understandably, will  plop the backing-magnet right behind the cores, and call it "good"...but actually the backing-magnets have no logical potsitiong and is only found though lots of bench work...
the fact that this particular  technique of building a no-lenz generator (actually speed-up under load type of genrator, even better!)
has been "revealed" is more important than fact Romero made it run itself in video demonstration......making it run itself is really a good demo of overunity mostly is all it is and cant be argued since it runs itself  (unless you say it is fake! ha)
- and loopin always seems to get people in trouble from those other people who just dont want the world's economy flipped-over right now and want to continue status quo of oil, coal, nuclear. wind, solar means of making power....(too many jobs lost I guess)

This is simply unintelligible gibberish. I've read a lot of posts like this one on Romero's site. Someone was even telling me that he was using the setup to 'power my car and heat up my house".

Let's not start an empty discussion. There is a simple way to prove that you are right. Have someone to examine and replicate the setup independently. I don't care which colour suits they will be wearing as long as we have published verifiable results.
Something tells me that will not be possible for a multitude of b/s reasons.

Anyway, I will be to first one to applaud to a successful design. So don't be shy.

[konehead]

Hey Avalon
No its not intelligable giberish  - unless you do not understand what Romero did, or have not done a replication that gets speed up under loading of coils.
what I worte is how it is and i dont care what you applaud.
people do use mullergenerator designs as motors, and do power cars with them, and power homes too.
what are you doing on Romero's site if you think he is a fake?
What are you doing HERE if you think he is fake? trying to enlightnen us with your keen perception ? (NOT)

[DimaWari]

This is what I mean guys.. SNNS magnet. Thus anyone tried this configuration?